March 14, 2021

Vintage Arcade Games: This Game Is Not Over


Date: 14th March 2021

Name of show: A Midlife Less Ordinary

Episode title and number: Season 1 Episode 10

 Brief summary of show:

Episode 10 of this A Midlife Less Ordinary season sees Wayne & Trev on a virtual pilgrimage to their childhood spent in the town they grew up in at the seafront arcades. The sounds, the smells and the of all things dropped sausages all get a mention here as the arcade nostalgia is bought to the front of their minds.

Who remembers the iconic Defender and Asteroids and the difficulty the games were set at which were consuming your 10 pence pieces by the bucket load. Co-host Wayne had almost forgotten how much of his childhood had been influenced by the arcades and their treasure trove of games and it comes across here as he seems more than a little bit excited at remembering the theme tunes to those blockbuster games. Trev, as always explains how he could afford to go on any game he liked as he had an abundance of cash at all times of life.

 

Bullet points of key topics & time stamps:

Trev 3.05

 

·       You know, like in like a building society or bank, they've got the counters with the little slots. They'd push you over there but they'd never speak to you. They'd look at you as though like you again. Now. Yeah, so theism but they were either like kind of women in their 50s with dodgy perms and shell suits on younger people doing a part time job but no they were looking for something Yeah, they wouldn't even look up with those you say no give give it to them.

 

Wayne: 14:18

·       Yeah. Yeah. Still, you still get that feeling? I tell you what Trev because I know he's not saying you've really looked into her. I'll send you some of the links to some of the places I've been looking into graphic artwork, because it does evoke them memories of being young again. Yeah,
 
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Transcript
intro:

You're listening to a mid life less ordinary, the weekly podcast giving you the lowdown on becoming a cool older dude. The good times are not afraid of memory. It's time to start loving them again. And here are your hosts Wayne and Trev.

Wayne:

Yeah, hello everyone and welcome to a mid life less ordinary. And I'm Wayne as always and how's Trev this week.

Trev:

I'm tip top fella tip top

Wayne:

tip top you sponsored by a condensed cream now? Milk? Oh, wow, it's close enough. So you're not sponsored by them?

Trev:

Who have you ever tasted condensed milk?

Wayne:

have actually yeah,

Trev:

it's awful, isn't it? Is anybody still actually drinking condensed milk? Would you have it with a cup of tea or coffee? I can't say what you do is

Wayne:

right into Trevi needs to know before we can it's been there since 1970.

Trev:

I used to have it in sandwiches. Yeah,

Wayne:

I think people do this. By the way, this episode is not about condensed milk products. This is not what this episode is about. So we sorry if we've alienated you already. Yes. We get back on we'll get back on the condense.

Trev:

People. If people do know what they do we condense milk, drop it,

Wayne:

let us know. Go to the website. amlo podcast.com. And let us know why not help Trevor. So this episode is basically all about retro arcade machines, which was a big part of our childhood. And it's entitled this game is not over.

Trev:

10 10s Please, Wayne

Wayne:

Oh, 10 10's wow that's something I've known for a while. 10 10s 1000s of times. Yeah, exactly. Explain that to explain it. Well,

Trev:

they because do you like the pound coins or just come out. And most video games were 10 P or 20 p the newer one to 20 P. So you couldn't put a pound in and get changed. So you had to go to the change booth that was like normally in the center of the arcade. So you'd go up there. And the person in the booth was either like a middle aged old woman, which is what we are well, not not.

Wayne:

Now there's a revelation.

Trev:

Yeah, so the condensed milk. But they would be the most miserable person that you could ever imagine. And they just didn't even talk to you did they work they just didn't read it they get their take the pound and they'd be like a little change machine and they put the pound in press a button, send like a chin like a check out what a cashier's machine Wouldn't it Yes, and there'd be this little kind of ramp. And like 1010s or a denomination of what you wanted would would run down this thing and then come into the little shoe. Like a little bank like unable

Wayne:

to scale to with a little collection.

Trev:

You know, like in like a building society or bank, they've got the counters with the little slots. They'd push you over there but they'd never speak to you. They'd look at you as though like you again. Now. Yeah, so theism but they were either like kind of women in their 50s with dodgy perms and shell suits on younger people doing a part time job but no they were looking for something Yeah, they wouldn't even look up with those you say no give give it to them. They were so programmed to put this pound on there wasn't two pound coins obviously sold their soul when they tried to do their job but they wouldn't even look at look at you know the checkout in the supermarket and they wouldn't even speak or look at it was intimidating. chillin chillin. But you needed looking at why. And then use the machine that normally we're still reading what like

Wayne:

yes, reading a book or

Trev:

looking down and reading but honestly that I haven't heard that term in IE 1010s please share

Wayne:

that is honestly I must have said that 1000 times but we needed these people with into the day.

Trev:

I've been playing with a pail

Wayne:

No, cuz Yeah,

Trev:

exactly. So you couldn't you know, it's

Wayne:

just made me laugh. But so retro arcade machines. Now a big comebacks being made with these machines. I've actually got one myself in my house, much to my other half dismay. And I'm looking to buy another one

Trev:

which one you've got? Well,

Wayne:

I'm not going to the big reasons why now but I've got the one up arcades arcade one up Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, but it's mainly because we got nine year old in the house. And the art works great, but that's not the best machine to buy. And at the end, I'll give you tips as to what's the best machine to buy for your home because they're affordable now.

Trev:

Like a Man Cave

Wayne:

Yes

Trev:

Yeah, what do they eat? typing. I'd love one. Which is ridiculous Really? Because we've got consoles, we've got emulators. Yeah, these Raspberry Pi are things that someone's been one of our listeners has been kind enough to lend me so I can have a couple of games or some old retro games or get me back in the mood for possibly the second part of this. So we can actually talk about what other ones are available now. Yeah, they again that that looks you know, because you know, you know about the Raspberry Pi's only one, you

Wayne:

know, I know a little bit about them. There's some topics about games and things that are a bit dodgy but as long as you own the legal rum to put the game on the pie,

Trev:

and you can actually machine itself is lent me. It looks like something that was done in a school science project. Yeah,

Wayne:

it is. They're very versatile things actually. Raspberry Pi if you like Chrome, hobbies and messing about with stuff there's not really Trevor and myself forte

Trev:

believe this dude. This dude made it.

Wayne:

Yeah, exactly. If you like tinkering with stuff, Raspberry Pi's view, you can make lots of stuff out of it to automate your home and looking forward to play in it

Trev:

using it. Yeah, yeah. Just doing a YouTube with that probably back. Yep. Yeah, exactly. I'll put a review of it up if you want or something like that.

Wayne:

Yeah. Cool. Yeah, we'll put a link to where people can get hold of them as well because it's cheap actually to purchase. Really?

Trev:

Yeah. I think he said he made it from like a YouTube video. You watch.

Wayne:

Yeah, yeah, you buy the basic bits. And you can put different depending on what you're using it for. But theres soldering, only if you want to Yeah, you can buy it, as I say different stages of kits. But you can basically just make you build your own arcade machine or something around and you can basically play a lot of the games we're going to mention tonight.

Trev:

Yeah, so if there's great memories, exactly. I have led us to what

Wayne:

led you to pilot full size Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle isn't cool for somebody round midlife for a man especially that where an arcade machine doesn't evoke certain memories like Space Invaders like the cabinet just

Trev:

play Teenage Mutant Ninja.

Wayne:

I was actually a bit older than him was no, because that was late 80s. So I was about 18. Now it's a great, it's a great site. It's great to epic. Obviously, it's a couple of games inside a massive arcade cabinet. I mean, he's one of arcade machines. If you don't have the riser with them, they're more for hobbit because they're only about 45 inches tall. But you buy a riser.

Trev:

Remember, remember the talkingof like the way machines you do you mean the table top games? Yeah,

Wayne:

yeah, you can buy them now as well. cocktail tables

Trev:

Yeah, they were designed for tables and pints on the table. They're a big thing. Now again,

Wayne:

I don't want them in the front room. Yeah, yeah, they're brilliant. You can get one of them for about 800 quid decent ones. With 3000 games on them. Yeah, they will, honestly and a lot of them will be pants games, but a lot of them are the original classics. But some of these, as I say is a bit of a gray area because some of these games might be downloading and you know, you know like used to download them or not download copy the music onto tape in 1978 from Top of the Pops onto tapes a bit in that kind of category of stuff. But there is some some legal versions we will talk about. So yeah,

Trev:

if if, sorry. I'm just gonna say I have one car arcade machine, it

Wayne:

wouldhave defender. I was gonna say and that's the probably the most difficult one to emulate because the amount of buttons that are on the

Trev:

side, because it was a nightmare to play, wasn't it? Yeah, it was really? It was hard. There was no, all of them were hard when they asteroids

Wayne:

was hard to be honest. You got to do hyperspace, and then you appear somewhere in the middle of a boulder and die. Yeah,

Trev:

I don't Yeah, I actually, you know, I never really thought of it like that. I don't remember any arcade machine being particularly easy.

Wayne:

None of them were even Space Invaders even if you learn the patterns it still Yeah, was difficult and

Trev:

challenging. Any of them been? Yeah, I don't remember that being easy. But then you were investing your money in it. It wasn't that you just play in one for fun where you're at you actually pay for

Wayne:

the property and say 10 pence in 1979 1980. I mean to me was I didn't get pocket money. So I mean, I had to either get

Trev:

how much you would go down to the arcade.

Wayne:

Nothing, but this is gonna sound really sad. Okay, well, for a start. I used to go down when I was at Junior School, which now kids wouldn't be allowed,

Trev:

don't let people think you were like a chimney swept out.

Wayne:

I was I'm not gonna go. Thanks. Thanks. dick van dyke

Trev:

Yeah. Looking for a charity. Hey, yeah.

Wayne:

This isn't a cry for help. Before in Wayne's shoes now. Yeah, yeah. Put me as some kind of Oxfam collection or something. But if I was no, he tries to push me to these places. I don't really want to go.

Trev:

cries out Yeah.

Wayne:

Seriously, and this is what I think you were the same as me when we were. I mean, nowadays, I know this from obviously we've got a nine year old and they're not allowed out of your site these days. But when I was between the ages of eight and 11 I used to go down the arcades now wasn't necessarily allowed to. My mother used to come and pull me out by my ear holes and dragged me out into it never was ever called here we go bring the world's smallest violin again. But yeah, I used to get dragged out but I used to stand in the arcades it didn't have any money just watching people hoping. Let me have a go. Give me your last life mate

Trev:

be as annoying Yeah,

Wayne:

I did. You wouldn't believe that's me which is used to wait for 10ps to fall out the 10 p fall machines they did sometimes used to get like 30 Pence think I was rich. You know,

Trev:

I used to think I think when I started going down the arcades I think I used to take about two quid I think would last me not

Wayne:

here we go rich old Trev we've always wonder I was a popular kid. Yeah, giving it all away cuz he could afford to

Trev:

show I was about to two. Yeah, I used to have like two quid what this is when he was a junior school? Yeah. About 10 11 I think I was up two quid because I'm sure I used to get I think I was paid three pound 50 a week from my paper round. When use it between the age of eight and 11. You were the chimney sweep? Obviously. Yes.

Wayne:

Yes. Right. Yeah. Don't get crazy. Yeah.

Trev:

Now one crowd was like get cozy. This was

Wayne:

a local news agent. If anyway. Yeah. Yeah, Harvey sorry.

Trev:

Yeah, I think you should get poppin seven pound 50 I think actually, what you got, but when I was sort of 10 11 I think it was to get three and a half quid a week pocket money. So two quid down your cage was about about right. And that would virtually give you either 20 egos of the crappier gains for 10 p Yes. Or 10 goes of like the newer stuff like paper boy, Operation wolf for 20

Wayne:

this is more when you're about 12 13 Now then,

Trev:

yeah, they were they were the 20 so you games. Early Marble Madness. I think Marble Madness is 20 P. Going back to your Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles arcade machine? Has it got like gauntlet style for joysticks? Yeah,

Wayne:

that's why i bought that oney Yeah, because it makes it better value in a sense you can have 4 people played it. Yeah, it's great. Because there's four in the turtles. It's got the other green turtles in time on it as well. But still, you can completely because you have infinite lives. You can just complete it in it. So I make the little in in our house. I tell him you're not allowed to do that. You got to do it with eight lives or nine lives. Okay, exactly. Because it's not fun. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Right. If you only had 10p left, you only use that on on, you know, to last as long as you can make it last. And that's what kept you going back. What's neat, the challenge.

Trev:

One of the other things, and I don't think people realize in today's society, excuse me, is we we do we play the arcades because they look so advanced. Yes. We'd still use light spectrums and Vic 20s in Commodores at home wouldn't wait. Yes, you've got that in the arcades as well, because they were like, a different world. They were not a lot better. I think atmosphere wise, I think one of the best games you could take part in was the Star Wars one that is sitting sitting when it was 1982. Yeah. We had the kind of line graphics. Yes. Yeah, yeah, to have that in your room would be cool, wouldn't it? They had real sound effects.

Wayne:

I love that game. That's what I used to try and get the 10 ps from people for that game.

Trev:

It was brilliant, wasn't it? I tell you when you blew up the Death Star. The white light? Yeah. Was blinding, wasn't it? Yeah, it was. It was amazing. Yeah, that was fun. It was very atmospheric.

Wayne:

I think he had kind of surround sound is what it? Yes. Right, Dolby. And it was one of the first sit in games wasn't it? I think it was. Yeah, it was I remember seeing it in harbour lights and thinking Wow, that's a nice one. Okay. And

Trev:

he looked incredible, didn't it? All the paintings? That was the other thing as well we've a lot of the arcade machines was the graphics

Wayne:

round. But that's still what you choose when you have one at home. You the graphics of it.

Trev:

I think one of the best side graphic panels was galaxian wasn't Yes. With the kind of insect with a big eyes. That was incredible that they were all in itself.

Wayne:

Yeah. Yeah. Still, you still get that feeling? I tell you what Trev because I know he's not saying you've really looked into her. I'll send you some of the links to some of the places I've been looking into graphic artwork, because it does evoke them memories of being young again. Yeah,

Trev:

I bet you were one of those kids that used to press the button on Temple of Doom Indiana Jones doo doo doo doo doo.

Wayne:

You didn't have any money? Yeah. I used to walk around the arcade just looking. That's it and the Raiders of the Lost Ark machine is getting this is when I was about 12 I did once I got like Trev once I got a paper round. I was okay. I used to spend it obviously down the arcades when I was 12 when I got paper and so then he's doing six pound 50 and Which as far as it went, but there was a game when I didn't have any money called Raiders of the Lost Ark. But we'll see both Oh, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom was the second one so I must have been a bit older than 16 pushing buttons on thing that's a bit childish now that's really dropped myself in there, but I used to push the button on the thing I used to get a free play the music didn't tune and I thought it was clever. Like actually the

Trev:

game werent a lot of bottle was it

Wayne:

it? No, it's rubbish. It was on the on the mine cart. Is it? Yeah, exactly.

Trev:

Yeah. So you'd be on a something. If you were hanging about arcades of your 16 year old boys. Oh, yeah, definitely.

Wayne:

Hold the vowels. The whole thing trip her up from Space Invaders and Pac Man right through to the until. I was in my 20s and the PlayStation come out I think and

Trev:

where me and you differed, though, when we lived with our cage and machines? Was I was only ever into the video game. Do you actually quite like the kind of fruit? You remember? Today? Yeah,

Wayne:

lucky. I'm not now I'm not. I hate them. I used to play the fruit machines. Yeah.

Trev:

Even when we were early 20s member longest game for a beer after work and stuff. And I could see it flashed in your eyes. And you guys, you could listen to it, couldn't you? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, there was loads. There was guys. We went to school with all we know. So actually, that's what they did for a living.

Wayne:

I know a guy. Yeah. A guy was named by some of the people I went to junior school would know him as well. But he used to, I assumed when I used to first go down the arcades where he lived right near the seafront, and he actually earned a living from going round playing fruit machines until he was banned from every sort of one within 100 mile radius.

Trev:

You probably thought he was well cool doing that. Yeah.

Wayne:

But yeah, but to be honest, when you're older, you sort of think well, where'd you go with that? You know, I mean, it's cool for a while do it as a hobby step in this career. Where's your promotion on this one? Yeah, you're not gonna be the sales director of wisdom on fruit machine. So I suppose if he's a millionaire now then I might be sort of a little bit jealous. I don't know.

Trev:

One to two games but actually our three as well I think you'd have it now three games that changed for me one was when track and field come Yes. Brilliant because it was so different wasn't a good call Yeah, there was no joystick it or there was they bought out later. Yeah, but the buttons hard but they even put Like Button guards on didn't like developing skills on how to patch the button time here and there. Yeah, there was like really weird like I used to when I used to play like gains like a really kind of weird mantra stance.

Wayne:

Wide stance

Trev:

semi handicap get in there to really kind of yeah that that changed it

Wayne:

it's like they've done a workout finishing it when he Christ it was it was work was tongue was hanging out.

Trev:

Yeah, the other one for me a big thing was seeing the handlebars on paper boy Yeah, paper boy a great game because when you

Unknown:

saw the grid come out on the spectrum, didn't it afterwards it

Trev:

did Yes. Terrible. Whatever. Yeah. Yeah, see in that the Could you just couldn't help but get attracted to like, a video game you with a pair handlebars as a controller? Yeah.

Wayne:

Yeah. Great idea.

Trev:

Do you remember as well that freaky machine actually had a real kind of motorbike on rollers? Yes. I can't remember that's a trial bike. Nobody remembers what that was called. But it was like a life sized trial bike. Wasn't it

Wayne:

that's right. Yeah. And then later on, hang on that come out. Didn't

Trev:

it was the cage wasn't it?

Wayne:

Yes or no. When you mean the cage

Trev:

you put the money in the cage gate would open and it was shut, wouldn't it for safety's and you get on it and ride and it would move about? Yeah, I've never, I've never had the Kahunas to play. That looked awful. It was just like.

Wayne:

But that was the Golden Age. Wasn't it? The late 70s obviously, with the Space Invaders and everything else, and then obviously when we were growing up, yeah, no. Frogger in 1942, Moon patrol,

Trev:

Popeye the music or the music for 1942, so now I'll do Yeah, I

Wayne:

do know it. Yeah. These things around forever. Yeah, it's brilliant language. Games have copied that now. You know, the sort of things you play on your Android or Apple phone. Whether despite the copy 1942 got, you know, a great game, but then red tank. Red tank was a bit yeah, it was one of the originals. I used to play that. Yeah, just, I mean, it's terrible, really, but, and then obviously, we've evolved into this middle 80s now light trevs saying paper boy Crystal Castles Space Harrier. These are games that you sat in an interactive way. Marble Madness, Marble Madness settle trackball,

Trev:

right yeah. I love the way that every time you've got the marble smashed there was like this we played, swept it up. There's different ways of it dying, it would disappear it acid, wouldn't

Wayne:

it? Yes. Right. Yeah. Brilliant. So I'm looking forward to playing these again.

Trev:

Yeah, one of the freakiest games. And I didn't used to play it, but it was really hard because the controls are hard. And it wasn't really what you think would make a good video game was to do it. You remember to do doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo.

Wayne:

You go down the rapids and in a little tube. Yeah, I was really good at that. Yeah, really good. Different controls. Yeah,

Trev:

with your legs and your arm already. Like that.

Wayne:

was a bit older. That was 1991. That was about then realized that.

Trev:

If you got spinning round, you were gone. Well, yeah, yeah.

Wayne:

But yeah, you gave me I forgot. I totally forgotten that game. brilliant game to do it. Yeah, that's how they kind of evolved and say now it's the golden age of arcade machines are gone. Trevor touched on it earlier, but basically, the spectrum and you have a Commodore 64 and other game systems Atari. They emulated the games but it was always better to go to the arcades where now? Yeah, you're actually better off at home. I think we should the displays we have and everything that

Trev:

HD and stuff. So it's really gone. And I noticed

Wayne:

when I went to an arcade of late, mostly the only things they're trying to sell now is that VR experiences you know,

Trev:

I've never I haven't been at one for ages. I keep talking about some of the lads from BV about having aka sort of meet down the seafront and like play in those kind of games. But tell you the other one that had really good music and you know instantly someone because you walk in an arcade and you could hear all Yeah, you hear the sounds Yeah. Another one that always used to stand out for me. was Peter Gunn is it Peter Gunn a Spy Hunter?

Wayne:

Oh to do. do do do do dum de dum

Trev:

You can hear a mile off couldn't Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And the side of that was really cool, wasn't it? Because I'd like a spy with a leggy bird. Bird listen to me cyber. Sorry. Yeah.

Wayne:

That's because we reserved their teens names. So that's why you have

Trev:

a leggy lady on the on the side of it didn't?

Wayne:

It did. Yeah. There's a great game going in the back of the truck and upgrading. So you could have an a boat. It could be a boat. Yeah.

Trev:

That was it. Yeah, this

Wayne:

grammar is actually to keep this nostalgia trip going trip. I think this time, maybe we could do a little test and bring up some of the other games around my arcade and a bit with test Trev on arcades.

Trev:

Yes. So you wouldn't have thought about it earlier. You're gonna change them usually to like a video. I could have.

Wayne:

Yeah, could have done something from

Trev:

Yeah, cuz we're so proud.

Wayne:

Yeah, cuz we Yeah, we don't roll like that. Trevor actually thinks of things while we're actually halfway through the actual podcast. Thanks for that. And we don't do any editing here. As we say this is exactly as it happened, folks. Yeah. So okay, so questions for this week. I've tried not to make because, to be honest, right? If I went online, and I went on some quizzes, and this is where I actually realized that I obviously spent too much of my childhood at arcades, because I was just getting them easy. I thought I got to be a bit more testing than that. But not too. Not too difficult. So these are sort of in between, I think I think you'll do okay, so question one name the sequel arcade machine to the classic Galaxian

Trev:

Galaga Yes. Oh yes. Yes, again, you

Wayne:

may think is

Trev:

one of the Avengers movies isn't it? That Did you know The man says it

Wayne:

for a non existent bonus point. Can you name the difference? really the main difference

Trev:

wasn't in gallega go round in a circle.

Wayne:

Now he did go up the side slightly but main difference was if your ship got captured and you rescue it you keep both ships on the screen that was double fire power

Trev:

to ship

Wayne:

Don't worry, there was no points in that. So you got that one. Right. So number two, that this is a bit more difficult and I wouldn't expect you to get this but you've mentioned this game already it is your favorite so you might and I knew this the control panel one defender and stargate are identical except for one thing and what is that? What can you take in Can you hear him ticking

Trev:

snoring? Okay?

Wayne:

Oh, is it the cat? Oh, yes.

Trev:

The

Wayne:

cat wants to get in on this action. He loves you and I'm doing this podcast. Just because he knows what the panel difference between defender and Stargate.

Trev:

I don't want to wake him up and ask him.

Wayne:

He would know though wouldn't he? Yeah, he would. You're not gonna get this one. You're googling it. I know he's taking too long.

Trev:

So there's different a button different. Yeah.

Wayne:

identical except for one thing.

Trev:

If I was just saying the word hyperspace, but that means anything. Yeah, I

Wayne:

know what you mean. It's not. You're not you're close but you're not right. It's, it's, I was gonna give you the answer. Because we're on limited time. Stargate has an envisio antimatter cloaking device which makes sure should be visible when indestructible. You always using the word envisio. So on the day to day life, right

Trev:

right there.

Wayne:

So I have to give you one of these for that one. Because they weren't Easy To be fair, but I think you'll get this one. I

Trev:

think you can even pronounce that.

Wayne:

You didn't have to say that. You just said that you had a cloaking device built in. But next question question three. In the classic Atari, Atari Games centipede. What appears when you shoot the centipede once? Well, I'll give you multiple choice. So in the classic Atari game centipede,

Trev:

I do know it

Wayne:

What is it? A millipede? Be a purple grasshopper. see another centipede? Or d a new mushroom?

Trev:

I can see. Yeah.

Wayne:

It's a mushroom. Mr. Mushroom. He was gonna say you

Trev:

always say to you before always go by your thoughts. Yeah, I should have done and the reason I didn't say mushroom is I thought it was put in there as a red herring because obviously that's got Sangha. Do we have sort of Mario brothers?

Wayne:

Yeah. Now I know You're overthinking it. And there's a thing. There say I haven't made these really, these were more the tougher questions because I'm not being funny. The easy ones for us, we would just plow through and it wouldn't make it. What we want people to be thinking at home. Okay, so last one. Again, it's not easy. But you know, you might know it. Question four. What was Mario's original name in the video game? Donkey Kong. And he's saying to do with the way he carries on. Very basic. Mario's original job. It's not bad. I'm gonna give you that. It's not but

Trev:

it's JUMPMAN JUMPMAN. Jumpman. That's Yeah, I knew you're on the right track. Yeah. I knew it. You know, and the reason it was called I was gonna say jumper.

Wayne:

Yeah. Well, you obviously you've heard it. I've heard I've heard the reference before. And I think the reason it was called Donkey Kong, in Japan, donkey can mean kind of crazy or something like that. So, you know, there are everywhere. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Well, no, I don't want you to go where you think you're gonna go with the word donkey? So I know, we put this podcast in as explicit, but there's a limit to where we can go with it. So let's do a good performance. Trev we hopefully people remember them games bit nostalgia going. Yeah,

Trev:

they were hard questions, actually. Yeah,

Wayne:

sorry. Yeah. It was challenging. As I say, it took me a long time to find them questions, because I didn't want to make it too easy. And just you know, everyone's going, Oh, Pac Man. Space Invaders, you know. So, yeah, so you know, what I must admit, when it comes to the end of my video game arcade experience when I was sort of late teens, early 20s. The games are playing advanced into games like

Trev:

Dragon's Lair and space Ace, which I love you. You still used spice aces. Lot your hands.

Wayne:

I still do for some things. Yeah,

Trev:

yeah, exactly. Yeah. For like, I don't know, like kinda email addresses and stuff in your one point. Yeah,

Wayne:

I don't know. So don't try and get into my bank account. Anyone out there? Using the website doesn't work. Now I've changed all that.

Trev:

What was what was the heroes name.

Wayne:

That was Dragon's Lair. Dexter is the space ace. I still play. I've got it on DVD you can play. I mean, it was one of the 10 games. I don't know if people know out there, but they're animated. And they're basically you've only got one way to move and you hit the button at the right time. And then you do a time timing. Yeah, exactly. So it is easy. It's quite easy to learn. But as I got older, I want you to have the experience of being like the king of a machine. Because I used to go down the arcades. I don't know if anyone experiences I'm sure Trev knows this. But you go down there everyone's name at the top of the leaderboard all the time and I want you to be that person. So what did you use to put in? What for some reason w o t?

Trev:

Really?

Wayne:

Yeah. I don't know why even know why I've done it because Have you seen a lot of figures? Yeah. What's your?

Trev:

I don't know what mine was mine was always SPG What's that for? A special patrol group? All right. Okay. And it was it. You know why? Because it was Vivian's hamster off the

Wayne:

young ones. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Trev:

Yeah. You know, she was familiar with me on there because I never used to get on and there's always

Wayne:

that also you fun? Yes. There was a guy called. Yeah. PIG And his name was at the top of every leader.

Trev:

Every machine you went up to and looked at, his name was on it. But you know what,

Wayne:

you know, when you say Trev you reap what you say. I mean, when I actually found out who this was. And I didn't know I was watching a guy. I can't remember what one of the games it was. But this guy was smashing it on this arcade machine. And this was years after I'd seen the name around everywhere. And I saw this guy smashing it but this is entertaining And he finished put his name in it was him. It was big. God, he looked like the biggest geek you can ever imagine. But you could What a surprise. Yeah. What a surprise because he did nothing else but play video games all day long. So video games, you know, to find

Trev:

God remember. I mean, you were but we we went we actually tried to reminisce Didn't we remember one Christmas Eve we finished work. And we were down the arcades. Yes. Yeah. Remember this? Yeah. And there was an arcade of really grotty, old one. It was a really cheap one. And they used to do that food. Didn't they love breakfast?

Wayne:

an old tin of beans from 1948 on the show.

Trev:

Yeah. Do you remember? It used to have like, it was called Wonderland Wonderland. Yeah. When we were kids, upstairs, scalextric? Yes. But downstairs it was but this counter they said was awful. And as you say they sound like a pyramid of beans. Or like a little display of nesquik. Remember that? Yeah. I loved it in there. And remember me and you get in a breakfast. And we sat outside because we wanted to smoke. And we sat outside in the freezing cold on Christmas Eve. Horrible fried breakfast and he did this before we went for a drink. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, we were freezing. And I remember like, dropping a sausage. And I remember it rolling off. And I was still so hungry in the floor. Yeah, I can remember it's I actually ate it offf the floor the old girl. She had a lot of really greasy Tabard uniform on.

Wayne:

I said you'd be glad to know that Trevor and I have evolved in same way now eat indoors all our greasy food

Trev:

smoke inside. Can you

Wayne:

Yeah, I mean, we're going back 2030 years.

Trev:

Why do we see our side?

Wayne:

I don't know smoking. It must have been smoking related.

Trev:

Inside I don't think there was any seats.

Wayne:

But there's hopefully some of the people out there who have their own memories which are similar. You know, I think all guys around our age would have had the experiences with the arcades at some point at some interaction though because

Trev:

we would be brought up in a seaside town is true.

Wayne:

Yeah, it'd be like when it's more urban it tends to be the more fruit machines inside the buildings kind of thing.

Trev:

Then they had then then they sort of got evolved to them other. really awful kind of shops that just had fruit this year. That's why me Yeah.

Wayne:

look more like gambling places.

Trev:

Yeah, yeah, they were if you couldn't get what it was like it was like a real life Cantina mos Isley your biggest collection of scumbags. Could you? Yeah, yeah. In those that they told my mum was like, Don't ever go in there. Don't ever go in

Wayne:

places like Qs in southend That used to be a place in Southend, which I used to spend a lot of my childhood to the bus stop. That was That's right. Yeah. Yeah.

Trev:

No, they say that was clever though. Putting one there because people are waiting for the bus. Go and spend. You're just going. Yeah, exactly. It was kind of Yeah, that Wonderland trip was very fun.

Wayne:

I'm so glad you enjoyed it and you stayed a part of your memory forever trev. I take you to all the best places as they say.

Trev:

Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

Wayne:

definitely. I'd like to share with everyone just like basically I've been doing a lot of research because I'm going to buy this other machine for home. And I'm going to try and encourage Trev to get one at some point because he's got some spam. And so we can both waste 100 quid on something. But these are available come from America, but this one is a is a proper built gaming system. And it also includes Three different control ways so you can play all the different games like we've been mentioning Crystal Castles Marble Madness, as Trev mentioned earlier, and this is got trackball built into it. It's got six buttons, a joystick, and two spinners. So you can play brake brake for and things like that. It's got every control it's a two player at the same time. It's got a 24 inch screen it's full size 800 pounds is called and I'm not sponsored by them or not sponsored by them at all. I'm just saying. If you want to send me one you can. It's called an 80 games legend ultimate free 100 multi game arcade machine. I've done my research on him anymore that description of the line. I'll just say it came up to me after I've got it tattooed. But

Trev:

yeah, four hours later

Wayne:

but seriously all jokes too one side I'm not sponsored by one but I honestly that is the best one available in the UK 300 games built in all things you remember all the different ways to play it can be upgraded. You can buy other ones for the same sort of money they've got 3000 games built in. Don't get me wrong, but they're shady.

Trev:

Yes, sir. Talking of controllers Yes, you remember what video game had the best control

Wayne:

in your oh god I mean you you've said that paper boy had the handlebars

Trev:

the best game we played it was the best game but it has the best controller in my opinion. God

Wayne:

tell us

Trev:

Tron Yes. Tron Yes. trigger the gun handle blah blah. Yeah, the trigger was lit up when it lit up to the game had nothing to do with the film

Wayne:

did it not really it was basically spiders and stuff actually

Trev:

the spiders are in the film. And the bikes

Wayne:

are in there the laser bite the bikes Yeah,

Trev:

it was a hard game though. There

Wayne:

was like all the others yes very challenging but the music was great. Great guy I'd like to Yeah, I'd like to it that cabinets not available as far as I can see. But it'd be lovely radical gap actually. We should do we may be conclude and we'll come up with our own king of the arcades of trip. So in summary, Trev you're killing it. Okay.

Trev:

Well, what machine wise? Yes. defender for me. Yeah, really. I just loved it. I just love the idea of I know there was everything there. Other things IR kung fu and that really cool operation roof Commando. But yeah, just as a classic defend was just great for me. I thought I don't know why I like it so much. I just don't

Wayne:

know. I think that's a good choice. Trev I liked it. I liked defender very difficult game is I say I don't think they can emulate you properly yet because the baton configuration is so different. My is difficult because some of the ones I enjoyed more come later on when I was better at them. Play games like that. Just quickly punch out and I'll click completely. Yeah, that was great. I was older then. But I enjoyed it. So I actually I would like to have it. So I think I will go I'll go with punch out.

Trev:

Yeah, yeah, it's different. Yeah,

Wayne:

I really enjoyed it. Remember,

Trev:

all your listeners, winners don't use drugs.

Wayne:

Now. It says that this type of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles,

Trev:

a lot of game smash TV out there on it.

Wayne:

I said that to the boy. I said, Look, winners don't use drugs. He doesn't even know what drugs are at nine years old yet.

Trev:

We leave the show on that comment.

Wayne:

We remember kiddies. Winners don't use drugs. Remember, this game is not over. It's not it's not.

Trev:

We've got plenty left in it. We've got your last man. We're definitely Yeah.

Wayne:

Let me have you lost. Yeah, we've said that a few times. So thanks. Thanks for joining us on this is nostalgic journeys video took us back to the times when when I made Trevi sausages off the floor. So so he was poor choice. Thanks, everyone for joining us. I hope you guys fun. Until next time,

Trev:

we'll see you on the next one. See you later.

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