Jan. 17, 2021

Midlife Gym Tips - Suns Out, Guns Out

Wayne & Trev reflect on the weight training lifestyle in which they participate in order to keep themselves in shape mentally and physically. Busting some of the myths surrounding bodybuilding and nutrition along the way.


Date: 17th January 2021

Name of show: A Midlife Less Ordinary

Episode title and number: Sun’s Out, Gun’s Out

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 Brief summary of show:

 Wayne & Trev reflect on the weight training lifestyle in which they participate in order to keep themselves in shape mentally and physically. Busting some of the myths surrounding bodybuilding and nutrition along the way.

  Ultimately, although it should always be a foregone conclusion regarding keeping fit and healthy, the guys make a strong case for the gym being a cool place to frequent in midlife.

 Bullet points of key topics & time stamps:

 

Wayne: 4:00 

My inspiration was that I used to see pictures of schwarzenegger  in the Argos catalogue advertising weider products

 

Trev: 8:52 

Yeah, I can pinpoint it to one moment when I was on holiday. I've was in Portugal or somewhere like that. And we are sitting on the beach. And I wasn’t really overweight the last few years. But I got to like, just kind of slightly overweight, coming up to middle aged man. 

 

Wayne: 12:59 

Yeah for sure. You can have a little bit of fat as long as your shoulders are bigger than your waist. This works, it works well. And you can do whatever you want within reason

 

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Transcript

intro:

You're listening to a mid life less ordinary, the weekly podcast giving you the lowdown on becoming a cool older dude. The good times are not afraid of memory. It's time to start loving them again. And here are your hosts, Wayne and Travis.

Wayne:

Yeah, Hello everyone. I'm Wayne and this is Trev. Hello and welcome to the new episode which is sun's out guns out and a little quip we like to say about when the summer comes and we got our tight t shirts on

Trev:

you get a summer comes not now because you don't want to be going out because there's no guns now there's only they are and they nipples. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you will see. And we don't want to see men's nipples that stick that's not cool to see men's nipples.

Wayne:

well it is in some instances? I guess I'm not I'm not saying that's not for every reason. Exactly in kingpin it is. That's a that's an episode in itself. But it's Yeah, so sun's out guns that we're gonna be talking about all things weight training, keeping yourself fit. Is it cool? Is it not? Should you start? Should you not? Hopefully we can encourage people to maybe not to join the join the gym was Yeah, yeah, that

Trev:

trip was on the example to be honest. Exactly. We've

Wayne:

talked about that. But yeah, I tried. Trevor knows, I've been training since I was a teenager on and off. And when we we got to know each other. Obviously, I'm going to first

Trev:

thing when I first saw you from like, after sort of school, I just couldn't believe how big you had got

Wayne:

Yeah. So you must know obviously from that, like, Do you know your training? So? And obviously wasn't? You worked with me? And obviously you've got loads of your own interests. And that is kind of what defined me being a sort of bigger guy. I suppose it

Trev:

made you who you are. who I am as I'm not like a life,

Wayne:

not just an ordinary man as such, you know, not just a mere mortal. Nice

Trev:

to have something to say doesnt't have to be stunningly different. No, it's nice. You don't want to just be one of the average. Yes, yeah, try and be something different. Even if it's only you that thinks it's called in. When we were in the third in the in one of the first episodes we did we talked about kind of finding your identity. And that's what you did with training.

Wayne:

Yeah. And it still defines me to this day is still something which makes me different people still say talk about the gym, you know,

Trev:

like we ever been to

Wayne:

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I feel your arms can I do? And I don't think I'm that big. Yeah. How much do you bench that's the most they're saying oh, here. He says,

Trev:

Go say okay.

Wayne:

And I don't like that because because of the Django. Sorry, that was last week's episode. But you know, because of that. I don't like that accent. But yeah, guy at one of the festivals kept asking how much i bench. Alone, wouldn't you just keep going on about how much car can you bench and I was just drunk

Trev:

Yeah. walking off. And then just coming back as well. While you tried to make it. You didn't understand it?

Wayne:

Yeah. I just gained in my midlife.

Trev:

So yeah, he just, he just ground you down.

Wayne:

How could you not want to train with characters like that coming up? Yeah. You know, yeah, this

Trev:

game. Right. right under your nose. Yeah, right.

Wayne:

Game, right. When you're drunk. And when you're having fun.

Trev:

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. asking how much you bench lonely ,was asked you the most macho question. Yeah. When you're trying to be macho? No, no, no,

Wayne:

I'm not in that. Well, I mean, I'm not, you know, the opposite. I've just I just enjoy training. That's it. That's for definitely for another episode. But so yeah, so where did it all start for us? You know, training for me, is something that I've had, you know, when I started training, I was 14 years old. And it was an underground thing. What

Trev:

kind of influence you

Wayne:

know, it's funny enough, a little bit of that, because I used to see pictures of schwarzenegger r in the Argos catalogue advertising weider products I know why he does. You know, then machines, you could buy that the squash squash up and the stretchy ones do sort of pull apart. Nice to see them and think Oh, that looks amazing, you know, in a kind of, by way, yeah. And then times because he was Mr. Olympia then this is it. I'm going back to late 70s, early 80s.to me, you've known him as an actor first.

Trev:

So I've known him Yeah. Big. I didn't know him was obviously pumping iron. But you know, you didn't take a lot of notice of that. We said that when it was it was a pretty old Terminator.

Wayne:

No, exactly. You you would see. Schwarzenegger is a larger than life actor, where I kind of Yeah, I saw the other side, the bodybuilding side and I used to buy magazines when I was a teenager,

Trev:

and the amount of people that he must have influenced.

Wayne:

Oh, God is the biggest single biggest influence on the how thhe culture has changed over the years. Definitely Sure. And that's a that's a big burden to carry out but

Trev:

bigger than Charles Atlas.

Wayne:

Exactly and that size. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I've tried to grow one, but it didn't work out. But

Trev:

yeah.

Wayne:

Now, we won't go there. But it's it. Yeah. So to me, it was something I started to imitate and it wasn't like it is nowadays where there was a gym on every corner like a McDonald's. It was. It was one gym in the town. They were underground gyms. Yeah. Where were middle aged men went to sort of train for their Rugby tournaments. Yeah, exactly. Fill out their shirts. And I definitely dabbled with it for on and off in my teens. And

Trev:

then when I left school is when you're in your teens. Oh, isn't it

Wayne:

is difficult. You would enjoy yourself. Exactly. You're you're doing other things, but at least I'd already cut my teeth on it. And, and basically when I got into my 20s and I started doing things like karate, you dabble with things. I started doing karate. And then john Claude Van Damme come along. Yeah, he would come into it. And he had muscles and he was cool with the karate. I started doing both good. Yeah, he did. And then I sort of caught on to it from that I started doing the weight training more than getting results. And I was getting more muscley. And, and I kind of thought, Oh, I can't do the karate don't Yeah, go for it

Trev:

more meaning to it. You roll with it? Yeah, you start does seeing a few bumps and lumps appearing. It changes the way you are you think roll with it. Yeah, it's more of this. bit like playing golf. Again. We're talking about that. And yeah, when you when you so but yeah, it's a bit like that. It's never enough. Is it because of hard work you put into it. And then you notice it.

Wayne:

And suddenly it's the first time somebody says to you, and I think the first time somebody ever said anything to me, I was probably at the time, I'd gone from like 11 stone to about 13 stone. And so a girl come up to me when I was out one night, and I was in my early 20s. And she said, Mr. wide shoulders or something like that? And she said, Yeah, or something. I think she said, a coat

Trev:

hanger.

Wayne:

Exactly. That's probably what it was. It was the 1980s jacket that was wearing Dallas, shoulder pads. Yeah, it was but now they've kind of things, the things that keep you going and that's what's kept me going and then I've taken it more seriously over the years and it becomes your lifestyle. And and I've been doing it

Trev:

all the time you get older when you're younger, because I didn't do it when I was young. No. But do you think when you're younger? And you just want to get big? Yeah, I've noticed over the six years I've been doing it. I've I've got a bit older and I think even now and it's probably not the right attitude, but he's suiting me. I think that's enough. Just keep it constant. By See I never did it when I was young. So you know whether you could tell me that? Did you look at it and think I try to get bigger and bigger.

Wayne:

Yeah, you just do. Do you there's one you'll see a person who obviously takes enhancements and

Trev:

really into all of the older bodybuilders where you knew about Yeah,

Wayne:

I used to have pictures on my wall with some of the women ones and that when I was a teenager when I lived at home with my parents, and you know, it's I was really into it, but

Trev:

I I know disrespective women bodybuilders ,I've got endless amount of respect for them. But I always thought they were quite ugly.

Wayne:

No, yeah, the look isn't good. Respect.

Trev:

Yeah, that's what changes when you do a bit of it. You think oh, that's amazing. Is that that's that the hard work

Wayne:

it took to get to?

Trev:

To kind of look at it and think our poser or Yeah, okay, you're not roid head or whatever. If you don't do it, you're CG to dismiss it. I know that I was probably a bit guilty of that when I was young. You know, you got you get that feeling of like, Oh, he's got muscles because he hasn't got a personality or he's not very bright.

Wayne:

What What made you start it though Trev? Why did you because you were never interested until one day you said to me, it's time.

Trev:

Yeah, I can pinpoint it to one moment when I was on holiday. I've probably in Portugal or somewhere like that. And we are sitting on the beach. And I have been really overweight in the years. But I got to like, just kind of slightly overweight, coming up to middle aged man. No, I'd been playing I played football when I was a kid. I played a lot of golf when I was still fairly fit. I wasn't a mess, but I could have easily become a mess. Because I was eating you know, not a lot of rubbish. But I was eating you know more than I should. Yeah. And I saw a dude walk past and he will you draw maybe a bit older and he weren't ripped or anything. He was just in fairly good shape. And I looked at him and I thought I should do that. I should just work a little bit to get a little bit in shape just to kind of so it doesn't look like I've just let go. I've hit 40 or 41 and just gone. can't be bothered. You can't be bothered because my weights always fluctuating I've Oh yeah, yeah. I've always been on diets or haven't I've been on diets used to do diet as your tour was Yeah, exactly. It wasn't nothing, nothing about kind of building muscle or wasn't anything about kind of toning muscle it was just like lose weight, gain weight, lose weight, gain weight, just all about waistband. And that's all it was for me. And I remember talking to you and I thought I got in contact with you again about doing the gym and like you were like, Yeah, I'd love to do it but with your blah blah. And I suppose because I'm a fairly confident person. I was a bit nervous when I went with the first I rolled into it quite well didn't know

Wayne:

Yeah, you not you do with everything. You you your interview and all the gear free pairs of trainers to wear their and on the way back, you

Trev:

listen to those. It makes me feel confident. comfortable with it. Yeah.

Wayne:

No, that's fine. Oh, sorry. I'm not not knocking it. I've just I just said you're as into it as you are about everything else. fashion. Yeah, exactly.

Trev:

Yeah, I think that was what it was, I saw this guy. And I thought I could do some of that. It wasn't any, it wasn't kind of to attract a female sex and I was obviously married. And that then so it wasn't like they were just a bit more respect for myself. You want to just be that fella that just couldn't be bothered. And just

Wayne:

and in that time, I've, you know, you've been training and obviously we don't train together anymore. But we trained together quite a few years, because obviously I moved away. But in all that time, I've never seen you get out of shape in all that time. And I'd seen you over the 20 years that we've lived near each other. So you're you were dieting. So you go up in weight come down and for whatever reason you just

Trev:

give up drinking did not Yeah,

Wayne:

you give up drinking, which is a shame because that's sort of like what defines us.

Trev:

Yeah, that's another story. Yeah, that's definitely

Wayne:

for another time. But yeah,

Trev:

yeah, I did. And then the weird thing is, I'm probably in I'd say equally as best shape now than I was to not ever been. About five years ago, four years ago, I was even very, I'd done very well. But I know and I've come out I put a little bit of weight on during lockdown, like everybody did. And then someone said to me "you put weight on" on and that triggered me. Yeah,

Wayne:

but what why do they mean? They mean? Do they mean bad?

Trev:

mean? Like mostly just for your fat get? Yeah, but that's that's what triggered me. That's always been my trigger. When someone says like something or you looking at

Wayne:

pictures? Yeah,

Trev:

yeah, yeah. Yeah. It was always someone asking me or telling me. And I tell you what, one thing I love about the training is, you know, when people are kind of insulting you, it might be an ingest or whatever, you know, always pick the first thing that comes in most obvious thing to them. Exactly. And back in the day, it was always agghh you're fat, get fat. And now no one's called me fat for about

Wayne:

five years. Yeah. And that's what happens. Bigger shoulders does to you. And bigger.

Trev:

is about the triangle in Yeah,

Wayne:

yeah. is you can be a little bit of fat as long as your shoulders are bigger than you and your waist. Yeah. And it works. It works. And you can do whatever you want. You can carry on enjoying yourself, weight training, and doing weights to you know, not seriously you can kind of pick and choose bits of it. As long as you work hard. And keep sort of at one eye on your diet. You can keep in a nice shape that keeps keep you going for

Trev:

forever. It looks like you looks like you try Yeah, but doesn't look like you sell your soul for my people to do and I still think that's a slightly bit of a young man's game but

Wayne:

I was part of culture now isn't it where before it was like on site what was different what was a subculture before now it's not you

Trev:

know, what's caused that was social media. Yes, forever time is you've yourself either image conscious that's where I'd I'd hate to be 22,23 in this social media culture, don't get me wrong. I use it a hell of a lot. You know, I do Yes, but honestly, because it's just competing all the time to me. You know, but did we get away from training?

Wayne:

That's no, no, but it's true. That's all part of it, though. You know, and the reason we keep going is because it basically works you know, you train you don't

Trev:

have to come with way of life. Yeah, if you let go of it. If you let go. I always feel really guilty after like, not missing a week or week and a half, which is Yeah, keenness, but if you do, if I know that if I stop, I will just because I will just put weight on

Wayne:

Yeah, you can have a week off and it's a good idea to have a week, every few months.

Trev:

Every now and again. a trainging day will come and I don't fancy it, and I think I really can't be bothered. Yeah. And that one of those days every now and again isn't a problem. Exactly. To me, it's not,

Wayne:

you know, because you've got to that stage where you were, where you you know, that's just a one off to get your mind right. Then the next time you're going to be up for

Trev:

a game because otherwise, otherwise is what it becomes such a routine. And we're going to talk about routines in another episode when you get a bit older and stuff. Yeah, it feels like it your Bill Murray's Groundhog Day you do it again, you do it again. So that little break and it feels like you're treating yourself. Yes. Yes. Well, as you're treating yourself to a break, instead of like, go into the gym or go into your, your get your gym, down the bottom of the garden, wherever you've got it. It just breaks that routine. And it is nice. Every now and again. It is nice to do that is nice, and long as you don't make it a regular occurrence.

Wayne:

When you're our age, obviously, we're not training to be an A Mr. Olympia. You know, there's been times in the past when I could have probably gone that not for Mr. Olympia. Sorry, I'm probably I could have I could have lost the fat and, you know, and got into

Trev:

it, you know, in that you've got your diet.

Wayne:

Exactly. And I'm not disciplined in that way. Because I want you to still have a life. So mine is kind of verging on being what we the term which we find very funny. It's like, you could say disco muscles. Somebody we've met Yeah, Eddie Hall. Yeah.

Trev:

at home. He pad now and I really admire Eddie Hall when you come across as a real nice fellow we do. Yeah. And we both got his book and staff. And yeah, he's uh, but when he said that, I remember me and you watching that documentary? And it just summed us up.

Wayne:

Yeah. It's definitely how I go. Now how I roll now yeah definitely,

Trev:

exactly. But then again, if that's what you want, that's what you're doing? Yeah, exactly. I'm

Wayne:

not trying to be Mr. Olympia. I'm trying to look as good as I can for the what I've got. And while still enjoying myself. I'd really like and there's no reason. You can't start whenever you can start weight training. Weight training will be good for anyone. Any age. I will do this for the rest of my life.

Trev:

Yeah. And you've got you'll have to adapt it. Yeah, I wouldn't. Yeah, you've got to because you just can't do what you can't train six times a week when you're 50 years old. You just can't do it. I think it's because we used to say this. When we train together we'd see. We'd sometimes we'd change different days, we had other stuff going on. And we'd sit there and we'd go down and you think that guy's always down here? Yeah. And for the younger generation, training has become,

Wayne:

like cleaning their teeth. Yeah.

Trev:

Yeah. Yeah. And where they kind of take selfies of each other. They spend hours in there don't know the threehours. Exactly. Yeah,

Wayne:

I mean, it's always been taught to me spend as little time as you can in the gym whilst getting the maximum of results. And to me, that's 45 minutes to an hour.

Trev:

Yeah, I have probably changed that because I've no no,

Wayne:

but the time I spent with you was afterwards. Yeah, but the actual time in the actual gym we spend was only about an hour. We Yeah, a lot of the time I spent with you was before and we'd have a bit of a craic after with with with every bit of a craic. You know,

Trev:

do you find training de stress? You don't know? Yes. sighs that's the other thing is you do i do and i don't i don't find it like I've had really a really awful day. I must train it out. No, but you tell me how you feel after you've done it.

Wayne:

I know. It's hard to fix the thing. Yeah. You feel better the endorphins come out and they do

Trev:

any form of exercise? Yes,

Wayne:

yeah. Yeah, whatever you're into is good. all I'll say is if you want to keep in shape, or give yourself that kind of respectful shape that people will actually admire you weight train is the best way to achieve that. Even with basic exercises, I mean, this is talk about some Trev what what what would you say if you had to choose three exercises to do two or three times a week? What would you choose? well as in weight training, yes. or just any Oh no, not just just for body just for keeping your body in shape like the weight training bodybuilding.

Trev:

Um I think you've got to do something with your shoulders. Yes. Again, big shoulders is a good thing. I've always traps to me is a good thing. Because it can make you look bigger without without going through all that real pain afterwards. Yeah, so you don't use your trap for a lot of traps for a lot of day to day things do you know so you can use it to be you can train us to really train our traps Yeah, yeah big time. So because it you still do traps? Yeah, of course I do.

Wayne:

I don't actually because I realized I'm overtraining my traps because I'm looking like a trap man. Yeah, I'm

Trev:

so bad. Yeah, everything I call trap man. Trap man

Wayne:

know

Trev:

what if what if one of the villains are called trapped there but he has got he looks like he's got two heads on the shoulders. got three heads. He's like see everyone's

Wayne:

got their own bits of their body that grow bigger. than anyone else, and I realized Actually, I don't need to really train traps anymore and they still look good because I've

Trev:

always had I don't do you know, I don't bulk there. Yeah, it's I never I didn't have before I trained obviously don't have traps. No,

Wayne:

no, I didn't know. You know, that was that was one of the things you're a lot wider than you were yeah.

Trev:

Oh yeah. You don't realize that your T

Wayne:

is when your T shirts have to fit and you find struggle to find fit. Yeah, I got a write up. Yeah. Yeah. They rise up. They rise out. Yeah, that's why I thought yeah.

Trev:

I think of all of the things my traps was one thing I noticed more than anything. traps on me I'd and I've always been, because obviously is a big procedure. I've always loved trading like triceps.

Wayne:

Yeah, but I've got

Trev:

we used to really enjoy that workout.

Wayne:

We used to go do it even when we were going out because we want to pump up our triceps and chest. going out tonight, we wouldn't be easy to skip that one, wouldn't it it'd be easy to skip that workout and go but now we want to be pumped up and it kind of worked. Because Yeah, you know, people notice

Trev:

movie stars would do that do read in here The thing about Swartz negar and not sporster Van Damme and Dolph Lundgren. Yes of universal soldiers pumping up before they've done scenes before like, yeah, that's right, look best on the so Yes, it does. It gives you confidence and

Wayne:

it gives you so much. You know, it makes you feel good. It makes you look better. And it doesn't it's not that difficult to do once you've learned the basic exercise even if you get somebody to just help you out a PT for a couple of weeks shows you the exercises they give you

Trev:

so you didn't know after we started off really kind of because I thought I'm gonna really go for this as much as I can. And to be honest, it honors it we it was proper hard work. It really was and I'm not saying I'm trying low I already think I tried reasonable i think but honestly a game with and I thought Do I need this in my life I really enjoyed the experience for a lot of month or whatever. But I won't get a cake keep that going.

Wayne:

Yeah, but the thing is that's giving you from what I can tell from talking to you. Now you do fruits like deadlifts and squats? I do

Trev:

Yes. Which which is great to be honest. No

Wayne:

I didn't do that. You've lifted the mask up the Wizard of Oz but but yeah, I did used to do sorry but just to put everyone straight I did used to do legs when I was younger. And this is it as I've got older. And when I trained with Trev I didn't bother doing legs I was doing it this

Trev:

way. What am what is and what am What did you say? What was your sign? Try the legs. No one sees your legs Luckily, I

Wayne:

didn't have really skinny legs so I could get away without you know your similar to me in a kind of your same height as me. You know we got similar sized legs length wise

Trev:

Yeah, we have we never met those pipecleaner legs. No, no when I was a middle kid of ovary type black jeans. I never had pipecleaner legs so we were Lucy Walker. You

Wayne:

got big calves.

Trev:

Exactly. Yeah, even before I tried legs everyone a young guys in the changing room said to me said Oh, you must train your legs in for that. Yeah,

Wayne:

don't try to talk. Well, that's another thing in the respects that younger guys give you exactly. Yeah, that

Trev:

was true. I yeah, yeah. Yeah, I quite like that. It keeps you Yeah, we've met a lot of younger guys and get on with them and talk to them. And then their dads as well anyway yeah. And all they do Yeah, they do kind of have a slight you know, respect you should just give up your job and you should could should give up your job become a doorman back in the day.

Wayne:

But I'm not I'm not even though you would probably ask to complete

Trev:

your identity. I

Wayne:

don't I don't like fighting I don't I like to get better because we know we're not fighters. I know you've seen me get angry. But I don't. I think the fact that I'm 17,18 Stone stops them from fighting me now. I've got gray hair and I'm big it actually people think well if I beat him I'm gonna be beaten up an old man. And if and if and obviously he's also 18 Stone so you're not hiding to nothing and when you do we used to get a lot of guys talk to you. Oh, you're in the army this? Oh, yeah, yeah, I think that will start more now but I'm a bit I'm a bit small. I've actually decided it's time to lose a bit and I'm a bit lighter. You know, I would say better shape you know, smaller waist and everything but I'm still 16 and a half stone. So there's still like a heavyweight boxer. So yeah, you know, which is quite shocking biggest problems. When

Trev:

I started training. I I never had a particular goal. And I don't mean as a good thing really. But I kind of just wanted to get in shape a bit. I'd never really quite yet

Wayne:

but there's so much to take in isn't there from All you had to learn the exercise now you can go off and do it on yourself. You've built a gym in your backyard.

Trev:

Yeah. And you do it yourself.

Wayne:

You don't need to know. I

Trev:

do know I do everything. So I'm proud of you in a way, because you now

Wayne:

I can talk to you about weight training, I don't have to tell you, I can talk to you about it and have a conversation about it. And it's it makes sense for both of us, which is great. You know,

Trev:

we both kind of I obviously, because of because the way m got into a lot of the supplements and stuff because you were just protein which I still take. I know you don't anymore. Do you know, I

Wayne:

still take it? I try? I don't take as much I just don't Yeah.

Trev:

What were you doing?

Wayne:

I was doing? I was I was taking about? Funny enough, I actually because moving on in a minute, I want to I'm going to do be doing test trev And that's one of the one of the questions. I don't want to preempt that. But yeah, that nutrition is going to be another, I think, another episode of partners because it's such a big broad subject. And to bring it all into today's I think today is all about encouraging you guys out there that are out kind of age in your midlife

Trev:

work. And like every all of all of you, everybody. Does that kind of New Year new me thing? Yes. And yeah. They'd be like loads of people don't put that pressure on yourself. Don't do it, no exactly. And not that. And if you are a bit overweight, I think people are gonna laugh at you damage.

Wayne:

People don't it's people expect for you, they'll laugh at you for not doing anything, because we

Trev:

don't want to do something about it. Yeah.

Wayne:

As every little bit that gets better in your physique or whatever will make give you that confidence and other people will respect you

Trev:

it there's no, you see a guy or a girl? A person that's like, start the gym? And then then within six months, you see how different they look? Or you send me a new so looking at different that dude looks. Yeah, look, it's a good thing that is great. You know, cuz you're doing and you're achieving something is the people that, you know, can't be bothered. But don't ever think that if you go to the gym, and you're overweight or anything, people are gonna laugh at you because they won't, because you're physically you've got through the door. If there's if there's anything.

Wayne:

If you're thinking after listening to this, if you're thinking of training and you think oh, there's so much to learn, and you want to expand on what we've been talking about, go to our website, www dot amlopodcast.com. Leave us a voicemail or message and we'll come back to you and and try and encourage you to, to train because it's been the single biggest thing of my life that keeps is constant and keeps me sane. Yeah. I can see apart from trev

Trev:

line. Yeah, obviously. But now it's just another thing that I do.

Wayne:

You got too many things to define is that it just goes to say how sad my life is to be honest, man. But I think what I should do to to bring you back down to earth, is to give you the gigbuilder test trail you didn't like this bit last week. So you done all right. So you beat us up. You know, right? There's the Star Wars one you did. Okay, so be confident. And I think it's time to test trev. More metal metal. Okay, so Trev Are you ready? This is the test trailers. suns out guns episode. This is this one. I can't see you getting but we're trying anyway. So that isn't giving you confidence. Is it? How many Olympia titles did Dorian Yates win?

Trev:

I know who dorian yates is, You don't know him?

Wayne:

He's the English bodybuilder. Oh, so you do know?

Trev:

Yeah, I know him. Yeah. That's about it. I

Wayne:

did think it was a bit unfair. But I thought I'd bring you back down to earth after the Star Wars one. Do you know what a bad case? It's not right. But it's not right. But you're close. A bit like catchphrase? You're not right. 666 I don't know.

Unknown:

Six? Yeah, well,

Wayne:

I think you kind of got a you've got a sort of idea haven't you. You're not being funny.

Trev:

Gone in what was it? is six. Oh, he was gonna say six?

Wayne:

I think I think I'm giving you that because you were close enough. I thought you would have said two or something. And he's not gonna

Trev:

say six. And I thought that's a bit kind of a round number. lucky number seven, and he tried that one , this is it

Wayne:

So you've got the tough one. I'll give you that because I think that's fair. Okay, Dorian Yates is a great champion. six year six wins in a row. No one. They used to call him the shadow because he used to just turn up out the blue on the Olympia stage and blow them all away and he comes from a gym in bed. him he's a great champion and he's not really revered is no. No, no, there's no hype with him and he, you know, and I'm sure they wind him up because he was he was phenomenal bodybuilder for us the 90s obviously must have taken it seriously be no come across like

Trev:

he took it.

Wayne:

Yeah, exactly. To get in shape he did. I mean the work he put in But anyway, that's that's that's another thing if Dorian, if you're listening, you come and do a podcast with us. We'd love to talk to you.

Trev:

Number two, I got the question. Right.

Wayne:

Exactly. You got it right. What year was pumping iron made?

Trev:

seventy six Oh, you're close, but not right.

Wayne:

Oh, okay. It's 1977 I was just about to the Star Wars music to give you a bit of a clue. It's a tough one. But you know it work. You know, it's a 70 area with

Trev:

your sideburns. Let's do a half.

Unknown:

Let's give you a half for that one. I

Trev:

think I finished the sideburns. I was taking this fashion in His sight. That's exactly you can tell and if

Wayne:

you've not seen it, go watch it because it's hilariously funny. And it will inspire a really good film.

Unknown:

Lou Ferigno is in it.

Wayne:

Yeah, exactly. The Hulk. The original Hulk, not the new and he's good. Number free. Which muscles you should know this one. Which muscles do deadlifts work? And I'll give it I'll give it to you if you get the free main ones.

Trev:

Sorry, mine one. Because it's somewhere in your legs. Somewhere in your legs. I've

Wayne:

figured no more than that. Come on. Well, maybe the what bits of your legs which bits her with loose. Loose yet that's one of them. Yeah. They probably do as a secondary kind of muscle but there's not one of the main ones but about the things behind your fires.

Unknown:

Oh,

Wayne:

I think with a cold something like when you have Akin chips and something else we're

Trev:

sorry. And strings. Yes, hamstrings is one.

Wayne:

That's what you so you add. And there's a there's a back muscle with the main back muscle spam spam. It's no No, no. That's not spine arc. That latissimus, a bloke out of gladiator the movie or died a ship. Okay. Well we get i think that's that's at least half

Trev:

German football.

Wayne:

Yeah, that was fairly cool. Yeah. But deadlift, one of the core exercises Trevor Dunn now does them. I can't do them at the moment. But they're a great exercise. They also do your core, which

Trev:

for getting rid of that. And it probably isn't, but you seem to have done with before getting rid of that middle aged spread bit. which we've all got. It's your core. Yeah, no, it's your core. Hell yeah. No matter how much you lose everywhere else, you've got that little tire there. And that does I think that that's just keep your shoulders wider.

Wayne:

Yeah, no, it's always be it's all of her weakness, man. Just get your shoulders wider. Just keep doing them your shoulder presses.

Trev:

and you can have a 3 foot gut?

Wayne:

Exactly. Don't that you can have a free full gallon four foot shelf. But not before. Number four, how many calories in a gram of protein? Yeah. Yeah, so you when you're working out your own macros, you should know this one.

Trev:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm always looking at me macros

Wayne:

not the macros the store by the way.

Trev:

does it still exist.

Wayne:

I don't know, to be honest. Yeah, sorry.

Trev:

Anybody that works on macros. Yeah, he's still Yeah, I'm sorry. We don't know if you exist or not. Yeah, no. That's like a bulk buying store, isn't it?

Wayne:

But it's not you know, it's a low number.

Trev:

I bet it is. Below 20. Yes.

Wayne:

Because think about it, if he was eating, you know, 100 grams of protein you'd have to you'd have to be within how many calories a day sort of average, do you know?

Trev:

1500

Wayne:

Well, that's kind of it. Yeah. might be for your weight. Actually, that would keep you probably at your weight now. And then you need to add a few calories to put on weight or understand that it's a bit long 1500 is very low. It's more like a teenager

Trev:

14

Wayne:

it's four but I mean it's a technical question. I know this because I've been doing it for years but

Trev:

because that was one of the hardest things I found out because I passed out in the kitchen.

Wayne:

Yes. Food. This is why not eating enough is not good because Trev tried to combine dieting with weight training. It doesn't work because he doesn't and he fainted near

Trev:

enough. I did faint in the kitchen you're not going to really but I will it won't go eat work out. You'll

Wayne:

get an app like My Fitness Pal, we're not sponsored by them via an app. But that did me a real trick using what I use that and count your calories that way and make sure you're eating your maintenance. You're making sure it's set at least Yeah, it makes.

Trev:

Well, don't think I'm training. Because as you remember you saying to me, it's all about your waist size? Yes. Exactly. Muscle weighs more than fat. Yeah, I couldn't get that in my head. Because I've been dieting for so long on and off that I just couldn't get that. I could I couldn't grasp it. took me ages to do you get

Wayne:

Anyway, I've proved to you now that that works. You just did you just need to train and eat enough. So the next one's a bonus question, really? And it's basically number five disco muscles or include your legs. There's no right or wrong answer. It's a trick question.

Trev:

You do the legs, don't you? Yeah. I'm gonna say a different thing to what you'd expect four years ago. This guy? muscles? Yes. And did you have another pair of trainers? Yes. I've still got them here to be.

Wayne:

One of them says disco muscles. And the other one says skip leg day. Yeah, it was inspiration for me not to ever do. He was. Yeah. Yeah, you can see both sides of the coin.

Trev:

Ah, I can see it now. But you'd have to say disco muscles at this stage in life.

Wayne:

I think if you're starting out now and you're listening to us, and you're getting inspired to go training, which I'd be really shocked with. But you know, there you go. You never know you never know. If you are. Do your legs do squats. Do deadlifts do them. But

Trev:

if you

Wayne:

if you want I would say do something if you don't want to do legs and your legs look okay, you know you've not got legs like drainpipe. Don't worry, just just train. What shows do your biceps? Do your forearms do your shoulders and legs.

Trev:

takes it away? Doesn't it? Yes. Something else. Exactly.

Wayne:

Yeah, I don't think there's a right or wrong answer. So is it unfair to say to Trev? Like, you've only got two out of five. I'm not gonna penalize you for that. I'm gonna say you done relatively well, you f thought about your answers. You done? Well, they weren't easy questions to be fair.

Trev:

Now. I must admit I thought I'd do worse than that. Now you done well. So

Wayne:

I think that brings us to the conclusion of

Trev:

today's the summary.

Wayne:

The summary. Yep. So is bodybuilding training cool for middle aged guys to do? Definitely.

Trev:

Yeah, definitely. I think is I can't think I don't you can argue, no,

Wayne:

there's no argument anyway, do it. Don't do anything else. Don't just run around doing 20 mile runs. Because you'll look like Mo Farah. And it's not. I mean, as much as Mo Farah is cool. And Mo if you're listening, we'll do a podcast with you. But don't want to look like if you if you run the hate we ask this guy. If you run 20 miles, you're gonna look like a long distance runner. It's not It's not. It's great. I mean, I admire you. Yeah. But it's not cool. Do weights? Do sprints and do do cardiovascular but do it in a controlled way where it's burning fat and keeping your cardiovascular system and your heart health and your heart.

Trev:

Exactly mentioned there. Nice to be honest. I'm missing people. Yeah, and to be honest with the diet thing. How much fried food do you eat? I don't know.

Wayne:

I I use them for any fried foods. I don't eat fried food. I use an airfryer which actually doesn't fry actually just heats food up. But it airfryer so I make you know, it doesn't affect that we were kids like,

Trev:

you know, going back to when we were kids. Everything was fried on it. Yeah, it was because we didn't know

Wayne:

any different. But the other things were healthy. We didn't have takeaway joints and things like that, do we? So

Trev:

anyway, back to the summary. Yes. Yes, it is. Yeah. It's cool how we love deep fat fryer on the stove. Yes. Oh, yeah. No, yeah. No, I think it is cool bodybuilding. Not forever, not for every body. But But those

Wayne:

give you don't sit there moaning about things and don't don't even go and try. It can really change your life if you're

Trev:

scared. So don't be scared to because people don't laugh at you. They don't. They just admire you for giving it a go. You want to do something? So don't don't ever think to yourself, or they're gonna laugh at me. They're all gonna laugh at me. Everyone's gonna start sob like we always say, don't just criticize something when you haven't done it, go

Wayne:

and try and do a taster session. They won't even charge you go and do it. See how you get

Trev:

to be honest as well. You meet some really good

Wayne:

people you meet some really nice people at the gym and be friends for life. You know, Trevor Noah has met doormen and when we go out we don't go out as often now but when we go out we get looked after when we go to places because we know these guys, you know, make you improve the night. So,

Trev:

yeah, you know, yes,

Wayne:

it's very cool. You know, it's obviously going to be something we love it's part of your life make it becoming part of like cleaning your teeth. Yeah,

Trev:

that's what I always say. It's like cleaning your teeth, always said that easy just becomes like a what you do your breakfast and stuff. Yeah, cuz it doesn't feel like a chore though it doesn't feel like you're going out your way to do it. Exactly. It's kind of Yeah, that's,

Wayne:

that's where you want to, you want to get it. You've tried it if you can, if you can just do it like that. And you could just do it twice a week, twice a week, you could get away with three is good, great, you know, whatever you can do, but do it for like 45 minutes to an hour. fit in as much as you can. We'll help you out with work. If you want to leave a message on our website, we've given you the address. Leave a message here. We'll help you out as much as we can. Thanks for listening to today's episode.

Trev:

I've been it's been good again.

Wayne:

We'll see you next week. And take it easy.

Trev:

Cheers, fellas. Yeah, yeah, keep fit.

intro:

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