April 11, 2021

Riding Motorbikes: Show Us Your Helmet

John Bartlett joins Wayne & Trev for an interview all about motorcycling, his experiences owning a Motorcycle training school and the dream trip of a lifetime that he took. A good episode for motorcycle fans or for others just to learn why its so appealing to many and why husbands dissappear for hours when popping to the shops on their motorbikes.


Transcript

John:

You're listening to a mid life less ordinary, the weekly podcast giving you the lowdown on becoming a cool older dude. The good times are not afraid of memory. It's time to start loving them again. And here are your hosts Wayne and Trev.

Wayne:

Yeah, hello everyone welcome back to a midlife less ordinary season two. And this is Episode Two of the second season. And we are talking today about riding motorbikes. And our subtitle is, show us your helmet. Now, Trev's here as always

Trev:

get your motor running

Wayne:

head out on the highway,

Trev:

looking for adventure

Wayne:

right, thats enough of that. Thanks for that Trev

Trev:

As soon as we were doing motorbikes. I just needed to do that. I just needed to get it out there.

Wayne:

I could feel it. For 12 episodes actually, exactly.

Trev:

I was actually doing the kind of revving with my hands, doing revving with my hands been while being saved.

Wayne:

So you're looking forward to talking about motorbikes with guest Joe?

Trev:

Yeah, yeah, very much. So. just basic clickers. I look like a biker. So I need to know a bit more information about it. Really.

Wayne:

It's an interesting subject.

Trev:

Now you've got a bike,

Wayne:

I've got bike. Hopefully we'll talk about it in the podcast a little bit. I you know, I love the mountain biking lifestyle. It's a friendly lifestyle bit like when you're in a car, the only sort of hand gesture you get is a basically a middle finger. That's true. But on a motorbike. Everyone goes past it, you know, waving it, you know, guiding towards a bush somewhere. You know, it's it's that kind of friendly lifestyle.

Trev:

There's not a lot of sort of subcultures that do that isn't there? Yes. Yeah. And drivers do. Do they do the thumb thing, didn't they? Yeah, they put that sort of thumb in their little finger up?

Wayne:

I certainly say yes, definitely a midlife kind of thing as well, you know, affording these kind of expensive machines and meeting up with your mates for a bacon sandwich somewhere and talking about energy. I

Trev:

think the Volkswagen thing is the surfing Do you think the hang look? Yeah, cool. So Devon Honda lifestyle. Basically, that's the same as running if you if when you're running. If you run past another jogger, they, you know, majority of them always put their hands up, you know, your wife, Miss, you know, same as the beard thing. You know, it's good that there's a little, little kind of respect there. I think a lot.

Wayne:

No, it's nice. Yeah, definitely. I enjoyed that part of it. It just gives me faith in the human race it believe it basically. Yeah,

Trev:

yeah.

Wayne:

That is, but we welcome another guest this week as part of our new season. And the guest is john Bartlet. He's had a motorbike school in the past. So he knows all about getting you through your training and everything. I believe he's had a few motorcycle adventures, I think will pick up a lot from this Trev. I think we will. We'll get straight into the interview. As I say, this one is riding motorbikes. Show us your helmet. I had to say that twice. Enjoy. So john, thanks for joining us today.

John:

No problem, no problem.

Wayne:

We've got a few questions for you. And I'd like to kick it off by basically asking how, how did you come about getting into motorcycles what have your love for it?

John:

To be honest, it was from childhood and knocking around on the site we grew up on there. For those people that call it the ambulance lay down in South India with different mates. And it was a matter of anything that with an engine that ran you had to draw on it, write it and and that's where it really started, whether it was an old moped or an old motorcycle across the fields. And that's how I got into it. And I've got sort of, I'd say, addicted since then for a long, long time. It's for those of you like myself, I know you right and it is a real it's a real addiction, and it gets in your blood and it's it stays with you even the times you don't own a motorcycle. I think it still stayed there.

Wayne:

Yeah, definitely contract.

Trev:

JOHN, was it was it? What do you think when you were younger? Was it the adrenaline of it

Unknown:

that pulled you is everything? Yeah, when I was young, I was influenced by a lot of things really, because obviously, I was into the heavy rock stuff. So I really loved that. You know, the films I came from Ryder, and I really, really wanted. Yeah, I really wanted to Harley's when I was younger, but I realized very, very quickly. The thing is, I have a very, very expensive and out of my price range. So I actually went out to the sports bikes, then you get the addiction or with the sports bikes, you get the sheer adrenaline rush of riding a sports bike, whether it being on the road or preferably on the track. So it's sort of it took me two different streets really, and and then later on, I came back to like go ride now Harley's and I've been riding last 20 years, but yeah, I mean anything. I'm pretty shot me with a two wheels and an engine to say

Trev:

you didn't say you

John:

got a trip. Oh, I'm sorry. Now just gonna say you just think I just

Trev:

gave you the spunk side of it john Carter motocross and stuff that weren't your deal.

Unknown:

No, I want to get across Ryder we bumped about as kids across the fields on anything when I was a road rider and solia Road rider is completely different style. So yeah, I was solely into the road bikes and road riding side of things and have been ever since. What do you right now?

Wayne:

You said Harley?

Unknown:

Yeah. The lightest bike I've got is a Harley breakout written.

John:

Oh, it's about 1900 cc.

Unknown:

Yes, just shy 1900 cc, a big old library. I call them tractors. It does it moves awry. And it weighs about as much as a truck it

Wayne:

must weigh about about 300 kilos. So we like

Trev:

to say something here. This is like controversially Kp bike. blog. Would that be a pain head? Does that make me sound like I know a bit?

Unknown:

Again, sorry. I misheard that. He said, he

Wayne:

said Is it a panhead?

Unknown:

No, no, no. Now going to be Trevor Trevor? Yeah. Going back to the heritage of Harley's, there's all different there's the knuckles of the pen, the the shovel, which are the older engines, you know, you're building up from very early on right to modern day stuff. The modern day stuff is is really based on it, but it's moved on a bit.

Wayne:

You've done the same kind of Route as me, john, you've gone. You've gone kind of sportsbike obviously for the adrenaline when you're younger and the reactions. And then now I mean, to be fair, my one can't decide if it's a panda garli or a word Harley Davidson, but it's both, but I use a cruiser. Well, mine, mine's a Ducati xdiavel, which is a cruiser, but it's got the engine of like a Pentagon.

Unknown:

So it's a bit weird. Yeah.

Wayne:

So he says it's a very well engineered cruiser, but it's a techno cruiser. So it's not the Harley Davidson is, is the epitome of cruisers. It's got that American,

Unknown:

you know, high road thing. Yep.

Trev:

What do you say to a cruiser? does it play life?

Wayne:

No, it doesn't play scooter and music plays the Italian national anthem when you pull up his bat I still but as I've got older, the comfort being comfortable is very important. When I'm a mother, I've got a Ducati 748 as well, an original one. And when I'm on that, I can't my knees. Just kill me. We're on the cruiser my feet forward. I like it's like sitting in an armchair. It's just great. Yeah,

Unknown:

he's true. strokes are folks with bikes. But you're absolutely right. I mean, you're right when you go the same route or went the same route. Same thing. sportsbike I can't think of anything worse now than trussed up in a leather suit.

Trev:

Or something now I have

Wayne:

nothing else.

Unknown:

You're often the air in your hands on the floor.

Trev:

Every weekend for me, I

Wayne:

can even convince him that he needs to keep mask off under his helmet.

Trev:

Yeah, my dude trying in school thing. What

Unknown:

What was that? Okay. Well, basically just one state service. You got a love of bikes, and which I obviously did have. The dream is to work with bikes in a way. And so I thought I got into my soccer training. I like the idea of teaching. And I got into that via another school, training school. And then I've got the option or opportunity to should I say, to take my own training school. I have a business partner and we've run it for 12 years. I was in my soccer training for 16 years in total run. Yeah, yeah. So it was it was the I enjoy teaching. I just ran bikes all day. Happy Days. Really?

Wayne:

What qualifications Do you need to be?

Unknown:

You need to be long suffering. You need to go. When you go you need some formal qualification by the driving Standards Agency and you need to go up depending on what exactly you want. To teach. So you have to you get trained by a particular school or training scheme. Then you go up to Covington and Bedfordshire. And then you're assessed by examiners over different subject matters regarding training. And if you pass those elements, you can then teach for various levels up to your full license unrestricted big bikes on the road, direct taxes sort of stuff. So you can sort of can start off learning your craft a bit like an apprenticeship, really. And and then after you get to the stage, you think, okay, I'm good enough. Now put me under test conditions, you can go and take their, their rigorous tests up there. And if they say yes, then you're you've got the car to train. I said, Where did you open your school? Chances? I had a big training school in terms of, as you might not be aware, guys, I can't reach out and originally I don't live there anymore on north side of Essex, on the other side of Braintree, out of the village out that way. But it helps it was the place because it was slap bang in the middle. And to be honest, it was pretty busy. And it was a busy school. That's where the driving school scrape driving school centers are based now as well, isn't it? Yeah, they were, I mean, eventually, they actually moved to better than the training the test centers. But originally it was in Chelmsford in terms of as you know, it's been a bit of a hub for success. And so it was, it was a good area to set up. It was when the other trading school was before I was there. So you had some sort of trade already got reputation. So we, we went from there really with it.

Wayne:

Fantastic trip. So are you at a qualification? yet?

Trev:

The qualifications? You've got john, could you take them to another country and use them? Or is it different standards for different countries

Unknown:

is, is different standards for different countries. I mean, I'm not be funny in this is generally quite a high standard. And some of the other countries are, but you go to some of the places, I mean, not necessarily America, but some of the other places. And it's very, very different that you notice, I mean, some of the places basically, if you can get on a ride out of the riding basket now, probably not, you've got your license. We're over here, it's very, very different. Very different. needs to be obviously, but so I mean, technically, you couldn't take those qualifications, I'm sure I could take my trading inability somewhere else, and training that country and find out what the standards are, but because ya know why once you can ride you can ride and if you know, the format of teaching, then you take out whatever bike is in whatever country you're in.

Wayne:

It's not a responsibility being a an instructor on a motorcycle, because when you take people out for doing the direct access or something on a large motorcycle, they've only ever rode a one to five and done a CBT. And they ride in on their own. You're just giving them instructions by microphone. So it's it's actually quite a lot responsibility to make sure they get home with the

Trev:

microphone.

Unknown:

Yeah,

Trev:

I haven't done

Unknown:

yet. Let's say that you're absolutely right, when you've got to spawn, the thing is we've torn structure, and it might be scary sitting next to someone in a car, but you've got your controls if you're a professional house. But motorcycle, you're right, all you got is your voice over the radio. So it is a big responsibility. And it can sometimes be well, yeah, so you have to be super confident. And you have to have pretty good voice control. Because at the end of the day, you can't physically reach over and grab their bike. Although sometimes you wish you could

Wayne:

without trying to make it a put on a downer. JOHN, have you ever had not been responsible? But Has anyone ever had an accident while you've been on duty with them?

Unknown:

Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a little bit like the lottery, eventually, the numbers come up, because we trained training school wise, we were a big big school and trained. I'm going to say 1000s rather than hundreds of people over the course of those years. So you can't do that without having I mean most of us silly little things. And thankfully but you are again on two wheels you are tight undertaking that and you you've got to realize there are apparent risks with that as well. But yeah, things can happen. People make mistakes, you get worse and people bumps and bruises mainly because obviously if you if you're pretty good at your job, you keep most things up and Trump's and 99% of the things you see are more dropping the block on themselves, you know, frozen their leg tracking their finger, that sort of thing that the silly little things generally more so embarrassment than anything else will be wrong.

Trev:

All the time embarrassing himself.

Wayne:

We just talked about in general on motorcycles which I'd like you to elaborate please

Trev:

podcast would Be on for hours if I elaborate how you embarrassed?

Wayne:

I've got Yeah. Okay. All right, moving on number four next from talking to before, and that this is something I've never done. And I always wanted to. And now I feel like I'm too old because that sounds a bit dramatic. But I believe you've done a tour in America or route 66, which is something that was on my bucket list, basically, can you tell us a bit about like the experience?

Unknown:

Yeah, you're actually going back into your body while you're

Trev:

here on this show.

Unknown:

If you're into bytes, or even into that sort of style, and scenery is one of the best things you can do. I cannot praise it enough. I did it. I took the long run at it three weeks back in 2004. Started in LA, when and it was pre organized things so I flew over there. The bikes were there. They were no older than six months old, the holidays and songwriter road King. They it's a real luxury way of doing it. They carry event or they haven't been I should say behind you carrying your luggage, and you ride to the next stop, stop, sleep overnight, and then ride on and ride round. And we did basically through the Rockies back down the middle. back down to Death Valley right in the middle of the middle of the Death Valley. Why anybody wants to live there. I really don't imagine timeout. I'm looped back around to the coast through Vegas, obviously. Then we loop back around to San Francisco and back up Pacific Coast Highway plan tastic scenery and what a way to do it. I cannot sounds It was absolutely incredible. Honest to God, I can even replay it in my mind. Now. I must have took 1000s of digital

Wayne:

photos. We can refer to us on the website.

Unknown:

Somewhere I've got I've got some photos now. But yeah, I will I will have a look. And it was honestly you get the charm.

Wayne:

inspire me, I know that and I'm sure it will inspire a lot of people listening to you know, because I think that's a dream of a lot of people to do. America and

Trev:

john was gone. Was he quite expensive to do?

Unknown:

Or was it a it was quite expensive. But we look at it a little bit like supposedly a wedding. I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do it properly. I want this as my wife and say making memories. I want to take this with me. I want to do the best way I could. So yeah, I spent a few quid on In fact, funny enough I finance. I had a couple of bikes in and I actually saw one of our bikes to finance a trip. Because I really wanted to do the longest the longest trip, you could do shorter ones, but a penny per pound, I really wanted to do it. You know, the three week one, which honestly was fantastic. And also, even if you don't ride Incidentally, Trevor didn't ride in when pillion and he loved it as well. And that was actually he stopped the video camera. And I'm writing. So

Wayne:

funny enough, you saying that? JOHN, we were talking about this earlier? Because Trevor and I were reminiscing about a time when we were both talking about I hadn't taken my test even though I'd had bikes since I was 16. Do I did we Yeah, we in our late 20s. We I was like Trevor hasn't got a license. I've got I've got but I you know, we can do it together. And Trevor was kind of up for it. And they didn't come back. Because you know, there isn't and I understand you've you know, you, you feel like you don't want to put yourself at risk like that. I understand. You know, no, I had experience. So it was a bit less worrying. very clumsy as well,

Unknown:

man.

Wayne:

But the thing is, the day after I passed my test, I bought 600 cc might have been trips on the back of it. So it's more dangerous than actually doing it himself. And I think we've been out a night before. So I don't know where that comes from. But yeah, a bit just maybe let the irony of it. And the thing I'd be worried about if you can reach hikers we were Yeah, you get older you dissipates. But the thing I'd be worried about with a comparing a motorbike in a marriage is the consummation of that would be. Well, actually, I wouldn't be worried. Oh, I think I like my bike that much. I don't know. I'm not I don't know where this is going into the

Trev:

bike ride. I think I would rather do that trip then get married again. Yeah.

Wayne:

Fair enough. Definitely. I think that's a good question for coming up driving. But

Trev:

doing it when you're older. Did you say if you hadn't written for like 20 years, john, and you were looking at and so I could do that? I could really get into that again. When you get back on a bike. Does your confidence go when you're a bit older? Do you Are you a bit more

Unknown:

yeah I mean, that's a Yeah, that's a $64,000 question, we're gonna cover it. Because I think like any of us, no matter what you did, if you haven't done something, you've played a sport, or you've done it, you haven't done something for 20 years, and particularly something that's inherently dangerous, and it's got an element of danger to it, the best thing to do by far is to be honest, swallow your pride. And because that's what most people suffer with, and swallow your pride get on and go into a little short training course even your day back on a bike with a skull, just to refresh your memory. Most schools do it now. So called a back to biking courses. So short codes, it's nothing to be embarrassed about. And also, it will harm you, it will remind you of things that you should be doing. And when I've done them in the past, I found there's actually people that 10 minutes said to me, You know what, I never knew that. I've been riding around all those years and didn't realize and so they pick things up. So that's the best way to do it. Because again, it's everything moves on technology wise and byte wise and why now understand this because you've been writing is the technology, the bikes, and the speed, performance, everything it moves on, and, and if you haven't ridden for a while, you will actually slow down you've got a bit more money to spend because you're your middle age, hopefully and so you can afford to do it. Take a little bit of training. It's the best money or spend a couple 100 quid you can buy it. You can spend that on a little bit of kit. Very good.

Trev:

Very good advice. That's to be I don't get his how to me a bike. He's just two wheels and an engine now. How can the technology advance? Well, I'll

Wayne:

manage it. Well. John's sorry, john. If you don't mind me. Harley davidsons. Probably quite what technology does a Harley I have not not too much john does it

Unknown:

was what changed?

Wayne:

What technology doesn't have all the belt you're actually riding?

Unknown:

They call him the Harley davidsons They call him hardly rideable. I mean, the attractor of the motorcycle is part of the roughness. The agricultural field, even though I'm not being funny, then come on if you if you jumped on I know your is pretty quick. Your you jumped on my Harley, you would be really quite shocked. Because it's it's got a lot of grunt. From Yes, I'm told for naught to 60 miles an hour. It you'll be surprised by so surprised. And so the trouble is with that, that's okay. But you've got to stop the thing. And then obviously, there's a lot of weight in a boat. So the brakes have got better even on the Holly's SQL injection. It wasn't years ago. Yeah. I got IVs on him now, I guess on Holly.

Wayne:

I'd say you saying that. But IBS. Obviously that's a sort of nowaday, we take that for granted Don't worry, but what they can do for us as a safety position on a bike when don't lock up obviously when you it's quite scary when it comes on though. Because you were before where which you don't you feel it in the in the brake pedal, don't you but with with two wheels, you actually feel the bike sort of shaking, but it's actually because it's not sliding you do it. It's doing a better job. But my bike has cornering control, abs, wheelie control, speed controlled launch control. I actually wonder what I'm actually doing on it sometimes. Honestly, it feels like Marvel one hasn't got anything. It feels like a natural experience like your bike. But

Unknown:

yeah,

Wayne:

I prefer having the technology now, because obviously my reactions are a bit slower. So I would have a Harley. I love Harley's and the whole aura that surrounds them, but I just wanted one last fro Evan saying that suits comfort. But how do I do that sort of fun Friel factor that magic cat. Yeah, Do you have one? Okay, but

Unknown:

you're right, it's

Wayne:

a lot safer now. To go,

Trev:

anything I can get out of that is that I think I've got quite a grant really, for human domain

Unknown:

should be really should be down to the ground.

Wayne:

Something that what you're saying? What I noticed is a lot as well, these premium motorcycles. I mean, these are very expensive machines, yours and mine. The funny thing about that is that the reason that we can afford these these machines is because we're older. This is a bit of an irony there because when I was 20 years old, I could only afford to buy, you know, a 10 year old motorbike that didn't have all the bells and whistles and then really you'd like to swap your life around a bit and add that technology when you're 20. Buy a you know top of the range to get your Harley Davidson when I was young, but it's kind of nice because I say I'll go to the Ducati dealership, and I'm sure it's the same at Harley Davidson at fabric or wherever is You go. And you take off your helmet in Indonesia with all the other guys there and everyone's like in their 50s and 60s, because that's the only people that can afford these bloody machines. Yeah,

Unknown:

yeah, that's the truth is exactly why it took me a while to get back back to Harley's, because it was the cost me more than anything. Prior to that, I wanted them but they was just out of my reach. And that's what you say. And a lot of these bikes now. That's what what Trev was saying earlier and asking the question about the bowling against the blue ball in the games, the ones that have had passes Si, and a lot of people that wouldn't pass a test in 1982 are not written on a vet spa, and not written since they technically got a full license and then come and buy a sports bike. Our toddler range, what do you think it bears no relevance to what you asked? Oh, no relevance, but you technically legally, you could get them right from the shop as long as your insurance. Yeah. And that's quite a scary thing. And if you've got any sense, you wouldn't do that. But legally, you can do.

John:

So what they could do.

Unknown:

To me?

Wayne:

No, it's totally different experience very small, your own reactions? Is yourself this does change or because the bikes are safer.

Unknown:

Yeah.

Trev:

The technology wise that you've got on your bike is honestly his mentors. Lee, does that make does that make you does it make you feel sorry? Yes.

Wayne:

Because I'm not being funny. I know when I've been out on it. Because I'm a I'm a fair weather rider and you go out when the sun shining, and I know it's gonna keep shining. Mostly because I hate cleaning more than anything else. But with a Harley Davidson, you'll understand that john, but about when I'm going around some buildings that you know, I'm not great if I'm being honest, and waiting for Trevor's clip here but it's when I go medical, a big tub a

Trev:

lot of time around a corner.

Wayne:

We could rephrase that a little bit better. But we're

Unknown:

not exactly the most filled guide to take.

Wayne:

But I know there's been occasions when I've been over things that would have normally have I would have slipped a little bit or something and it hasn't done it and it's quite weird because I think that's great. If you could think that you could do it. Yeah. It's got a computer in there that's actually working out what angle I'm at. Well fast ongoing, how to let the wheel so it's absolutely mental you say if you if

Trev:

it sounds like to me it sounds like you're riding straight Hawkwind facts.

Wayne:

As we spoke about in a previous thing. I think I'm even doing the music because I'm writing a long history. But at the end of the day, they are great fun, you know, and you remember of any psycho motorcycle clubs. JOHN,

Unknown:

I'm no, I'm a bit of an oddball. Like I'm, I'm what they call I'm an anti badge wearer. And what I mean by that is I don't Yeah, I I like to be a bit of an oddball I like to be I like what I like really. And whether that conforms or not, I just don't care. And so I started rugby clubs when we got the rides are live in one of my mates. Could might mine's got a literally a 1948 Indian. What a one who's got a flat track menu, flat track Indian one, I just got a trial. They are one of my most golf caddy. multistrike. And I don't, you know, you get these elitist things. And I don't like the elitist thing. You get the same in all the groups. You get the same as you get Harley Davidson you get the snobbery sometimes with some people as being dumb. Which is not me. It's not me. Yeah, yeah, it's not me. I don't I don't, I don't like I like to break the mold. I don't like to be like, I don't belong to clubs, per se. I got we made some things and I like all different bikes. But no, I'm definitely not a badger. Were

Trev:

you on those bikes? You mentioned the off your mics have gone. Sounds like quite classic bikes is no one really got any newer bikes than you. Yeah, yeah.

Unknown:

I mean, the 94. You write the 94 to 94. And you love this. So why it's a right hand, left hand roll. Watch. Right hand, suicide shift gear change by hand. Wow. So yeah. But they had to go but the sorry. You had to go with it. No, no, I love to buy. You know that that bike is probably the best part of 35 k now. Yeah,

Wayne:

so what we're saying is exactly what we were saying.

Unknown:

But yeah, I

Trev:

just said there. I didn't understand a word of it. Blah blah blah and I was like, you just say that

Unknown:

I mean there's some guys with some classic bites and another guy with a 94 to it, but there's a lot of people like it's got a brand new flat track Indian. A bit like Oh God, I think he's known now. Did the speed record come out? Yeah. Yeah, it's bit like armar Guy Martin road. It's the sort of new version so there's new bikes involved as well. So we lost a little bit of everything

Wayne:

retro now john, isn't there were a lot of our newer bikes style our barbers and yeah, that is that's a big thing now, retro looking bikes that the technology of the modern bikes it's

Unknown:

definitely I mean, you know, looking back at the AIDS and all that stuff out, I mean, you got films like Mad Max, yeah. That is appealing. So yeah, and that's what they've done. They've gone Okay, well, we're redesigned for the people like us and we're making the modern technology so that you stop now and they go better and then you can go around the corner. So here is the

Trev:

best of both worlds really, john?

Wayne:

Yeah bet Yeah. retros always calling in so until you're talking with Cole I think it's that time of the week on the podcast where we we test the guest and don't be alarmed john because you if you've heard the podcast before

Trev:

john we are this is well

Wayne:

I've done it differently. It's not that I can tell if I was asking what's the two stroke Yamaha in the 80s that took the world by storm you'd know what I'm talking about. But these questions are not like that. These are more technical to give you both a bit of a chance so yeah, you have to go as well trip because I'm talking like to leave you at you cried last week when I left you out but don't be alarmed at our new a new jingle john but this is just to introduce this segment. Test.

Unknown:

Test test yeah

Trev:

I'm surprised it hasn't freaked people out actually

Wayne:

hasn't been out there yet. Especially if you've got headphones on that first question to Johnson as as the guest and so when was the first internal combustion motorcycle fueled by petrol invented? And it's got multiple choices. It's 1885 1900 or 1915.

Unknown:

Okay, I would say 1885

Wayne:

knows much more tougher than the normal ones about the Magnavox whatever it is in arcade machines. Yeah. Well, Trevor, no question for you. Number two in 1894. which model you should remember this 1894 which model became the first series production motorcycle in the world was a a orient astir b Hildebrand and Wolf Bullock, or C pajot. motorcycles. First production motorcycle. Orient astir.

Trev:

I like the sound of

John:

the German one Hildebrand de Mola. Yeah,

Trev:

well, yeah. I said it yet. Oh, he hasn't

Wayne:

said it yet. Right. Oh, I said go with you got it as my fault technical error. Technical.

Trev:

Yet, when we buy later hosen.

Wayne:

is not Christian free to jump in a motorcycle, or rotational force generated by the crankshaft is transmitted to Which part? Is it the front wheel? The engine or the rear wheel?

Unknown:

The rear wheel?

Wayne:

To be honest, john, I hadn't looked at these questions if I do if I do. That one was in there. I don't think I've ever left that one out. I don't even trade my god that would you got that? Yes. That was a question for you. Yeah. Question for your trip. Yeah, you'll get a good one. Now, which company has been the largest motorcycle manufacturer in the world? Since 1959. We have around 400 million models in production by the end of 2019.

Trev:

What do I get?

Wayne:

I just want you to guess the secret Any motorcycle manufacturers and I can be Yamaha B it could be a Honda or C it could be Suzuki think of the obvious well,

Unknown:

Yamaha

Wayne:

to never go to

Unknown:

I would have said Honda.

Wayne:

There's no bonus points but just for being flashy. Yeah. It was obvious why No, no, no, I didn't say it's obvious. It's not obvious obviously to somebody who's not even into my bot. My main news is that if you're into my bot, you know that Honda really have had that sound up for a long time. The others have copied him more every day. Yeah, yeah. Question five to john. The motorcycle manufacturer Harley Davidson one for you. Harley Davidson is based in which US state Oh my god, do you want to get the answers? JOHN, would you want to just go?

Unknown:

Well, okay, you know, is that what it was state? Not the Oh, no, go to choice grid obey yet Miss Missoula, New Mexico or Wisconsin? A Missouri. Yeah. Is

Wayne:

that Missouri? Missouri is a B's New Mexico C is Wisconsin.

Trev:

Yes. Johnny's making me look really stupid.

Wayne:

I'm sort of engineering it that way. I'm gonna give you a little bonus contributor and a little sharing with him. I'm going to give you questions six. Just you know, even though time's running, we're going to give you questions 60 so you can redeem yourself. Which of the following is a British motorcycle brands? If you don't get this you're gonna get slapped. So, is he a Indian? Be try out triumph. Or see Royal Enfield

Trev:

was not English, then well in Indian English. Thrall Enfield.

Unknown:

Is it was initially in Greece, but it's made in India. Yeah.

Trev:

Really?

Wayne:

Oh, no. Never got Yeah. And I think Indian was made in India, and then it's English. And then it's Indian. English. But unfortunately, these answers don't elaborate. So usually, when I give you a bit of background into the answer, I can't really give you any because this one doesn't give us that background. But anyway, you know, it's a little bit with that John's got free out free says a good show. And that's one of the best we've ever done. So, yeah, well done. Yeah, he's the best we've had. JOHN.

Unknown:

So thank you very much.

Wayne:

If you've got any summarizing questions for for john.

Unknown:

Well, no, I'm

Trev:

just about to say it does seem like a middle age thing to get back on your bike, doesn't it? It does seem to it's a it's a kind of midlife crisis kind of thing. But it doesn't seem like it's a theme to do when you are of a certain age. Like, I think, yeah, to sum it up. It

Unknown:

does, but you've only got to remember that film wild hoax. Reverend

Wayne:

William H. Macy.

Unknown:

Yeah,

Trev:

yeah. Hold on, john. Now he said no bad. No, go and then Mrs.

Wayne:

Smile. And now it's time to finish for this week. And we've run out of time. Unfortunately. This isn't a movie one trip. This is this. Yeah.

Unknown:

Okay.

Wayne:

john travolta and Tim Allen, Buzz Lightyear whatever his name is. Yeah, yeah. Say I don't know. Don't take the pressure off. Thanks for that trip. He's so nice to me. But john can see what you're like now. So yeah, no summer. Thanks very much for that, Johnny. I think you've hopefully given peoples who are thinking of taking up bikes again, especially born again, one's confidence to do that and what they should be doing in order to do it safely. Is there any final words you'd like to say to anyone who's thinking of getting back?

Unknown:

No, I mean, thanks for the opportunity to come on the podcast. It seems to be doing well. thought this. Yeah. I just like to say to people, be safe. If you're going to do it. Think about the safety aspect. Think about what you're wearing. Get a bit of training and got the money, go into route 66 boys. Lovely.

Wayne:

Thanks for that. JOHN, thank you for joining us today. That's great. Cheers. Well, that was really enlightening interview Trev I really enjoyed. I've definitely got something on my bucket list. Now I want to go on the route 66 across America, what do you think?

Trev:

I knew you'd say that I knew that would would tend to lie as your old biking. Yeah, I I thought it was brilliant. Yeah. JOHN obviously knows a lot about that kind of stuff. You can tell obviously, that the safety issues are a big thing for him. Because if he had obviously had the school, yeah, and I think, as I think I've mentioned as well that I think when you do get a bit older, you're kind of bottle does go a bit. So to get those sort of safety measures. So weird, again, is a good thing. Definitely. And I really believe in that because he's, you know, the, the roads are dangerous online.

Wayne:

Definitely. And it gets worse every year passes by.

Trev:

I think if you want to enjoy that kind of lifestyle, you've got to take that into consideration. But Harley's. And those bikes, those kind of colds, or just call for stop, they just look cold. And when you walk past them, when you see people on them, you just think it gives you as john said it, it gives you a sense of freedom, doesn't it? Yeah, the wind in your hair, or with the wind in the little bit of hair? Yeah, I can see what you get so much enjoyment out of it,

Wayne:

because I'm putting the helmet on and hide that little bit.

Trev:

Yes, you're well done. But I think for me, really now, the time has gotten to do it. As much as I'd love

Wayne:

Yeah. You can't be a bone again, because you've never been bone to it over here. So

Trev:

Exactly. As you say,

Wayne:

you do like a bike again more than I do.

Trev:

Staff you just think that it would go hand in hand and you know, I toyed with it and thought about it but as I think I said I've said before I'm I'm very clumsy and stuff and I'm aware of the fairies all the time. I don't mean nine different nightclubs on a Wednesday. Yes, yeah, I am. And so I you know, even when I was mountain biking and cycling a lot in my younger days, I was always having accidents and coming off because basically I just didn't pay enough attention. And we've we've we've kind of you have to be so focused on showing your legs my that just you know,

Wayne:

I'm not going there. Yes, I did try it. Yeah, I know. But you are a crotch rocket in somebody's hands who doesn't want to pay that kind of real focus you after he tries me out when I get back? I mean, most people go out on a motorcycle on a Sunday morning to chill out. I come back I stressed because I'm so focused on being safe, you know, but one person pulling out and I've had people I know that succumb to the the you know that. Yeah, so you know he's dangerous, but the lifestyle is very cool. And I love it. But I don't want to be riding a bike every day. I just want to be pulling it out the garbage making me feel happy polishing it and putting it back.

Trev:

Everybody I know ours has got a motorbike not many of them ride them to work if we die off it is sort of something you take out your garbage. When you want to let loose you want to forget about things and ride you know and if

Wayne:

you do do not wear them polite green vest that's a polite on the back look like police. You look like a complete soul if you want to look like a policeman but as honestly these is well known in biking fraternity. These guys that ride around in the middle of the traffic jams in the morning. And they've got like a high vis vest on and it says polite in checkered black and white vote and you think it's police. But basically they just said polite give me space and it's so sad. Do not wear that stuff. So that's just my little tip for motorcycling. Even if you just do not wear them vest, wear good levers look cool. And enjoy. Enjoy your motorcycling.

Unknown:

I was gonna go out and one of them at the weekend. Yeah, I

Wayne:

was gonna say I'll buy you one for Christmas. I'd love to see you walking around and you're getting pained by older bikers. We've done you've done worse. Let's be honest. Come on.

Unknown:

An absolute treat for the ladies that exactly will be ready. We'll put that up on the website.

Wayne:

So I think that's that's sums up this podcast, all about motorbikes. We hope you enjoyed it. If you've got any questions about it, we can pass on to john, as always, please visit the website, www dot mlo podcast.com. And if you're kind enough to leave us a review, or give us some grief, whatever you want to do, please do do that as well. Any last words trip? Not not literally.

Trev:

Which I would do if I was on a motorbike. Yeah. Brilliant. Loved it really, really interesting. You know,

Wayne:

get it on the highway. Lovely. Yes, sing again. Thanks, Trey. And we'll see you on the next one. Cheers, everyone. Bye Bye.

John:

Thanks for listening. If you enjoyed this episode and you'd like to help support the podcast, Please leave a rating and review and visit our website at www dot A mlo podcast.com. To check out all the links in the courses in the show notes, start living them good times. See you next time

John Bartlett

Guest: Riding Motorbikes - Show Us Your helmet

John Bartlett has been passionate about motorbikes since before time began. From boyhood to manhood and from 2 stroke to 4 stroke John has stayed faithful to the subculture that is motorcycling.

John has owned a motorcycle school in the past and has extensive knowledge of making biking as safe as possible and he has also traveled across the USA on whatever else than a Harley Davidson.

John joins the A Midlife Less Ordinary boys to share his experiences on all things motorcycling.