May 2, 2021

Playing Chess: Queen Bashes Bishop


Transcript

intro:

You're listening to a mid life less ordinary, the weekly podcast giving you the lowdown on becoming a cool older dude. The good times are not afraid of memory. It's time to start loving them again. And here are your hosts Wayne and trap.

Wayne:

Yeah, welcome back everyone welcome to a midlife less ordinary. And as usual, I am Wayne. And today's title is playing chess and subtitled Queen bashes Bishop tribs. Getting these bald out trif

Trev:

checkmate. No one was an email voice from from the young ones which was seven seven seal was it we met? Yes. When the replies is it being the young ones after that based on swearing in, so I didn't do everyone would be looking. turning over a new leaf now I'm not gonna kind of not going to be so cheeky. Oh, yeah,

Wayne:

I believe that. Yeah. Sorry to everyone. He's just being silly. He's obviously had to sneeze. Yeah. Exactly. Yes. Trade today. chess. What do you know about chess?

Trev:

I can't even play it. Well, this is why we're doing it. Can't even play it. Again. It looks quite funky when you see in the film for their time and that kind of stuff in the movies, but I know nothing about it. So hopefully Gary can Yeah. This is Yeah. Today's special guest is Gary perks. by trade. He's

Wayne:

a ceramic tiler of high quality, I believe. And by night he's a knight to being a chess piece. Is that right? Yeah, very good. He by night either is a championship chess player, he plays at county level. And he's going to tell us all about the tactics, the kind of stress levels and the skill that you have to have basically to to play chess, which I find quite stressful. I played chess before but

Trev:

it looks stressful to the to the chess guy like me. Window seating, the Elkins center, old vines pulsing not those kind of vines in the head

Wayne:

of what was going to change over a new leaf about 30 seconds ago,

Trev:

it last year and a half. But yeah,

Wayne:

I find it quite stressful. He's just because I don't like to get myself in that zone where you're thinking four or five moves ahead. I find the same with snooker. I prefer to just smash the balls, as I say. But yeah, sorry. I didn't mean to mean to do that. But

Trev:

yeah, just tell us how you feel wine.

Wayne:

Yeah. So yeah, I didn't add sorry, everyone. I didn't know that. I wouldn't do that on purpose. Exactly. But yeah, that's why Gary is here today to help us out. We've learned about chess, and hopefully everyone find it interesting. So we'll go over to Gary.

Trev:

Thank you, Gary.

Wayne:

Thanks for joining us today, Gary. We were looking forward to finding out something about chess, which is not something we currently know much about. So hoping you can fill our guests in with it. So

Trev:

welcome to the show. I can't even I can't even play it, let alone know anything about it. HBO at some point.

Gary:

Thanks for inviting me on. It's good to be here.

Trev:

So no problem. No problem at all.

Wayne:

So can you tell us a bit Gary about where you started playing and how old you were?

Gary:

Yeah, of course again. So basically, I started playing at my junior school. Now. I was a big fan of bald games. Anyway, all the normal ones clewd Oh, Scrabble. And obviously, we had a new headmaster, Turner Pascoe. And with him, he bought this game called chess. So straightaway, I was like, what's this? This looks good. And obviously, I didn't have a clue how to play it. So obviously, I said to one of my friends, I said, You do know how to play that. And he happens to know our players. So one lunchtime, we sat down, and he showed me a play. And I was hooked hooked from the start. It's just such a good game. So obviously, I got good at it quickly. So I learned a play. Two weeks later, I was playing on board six in the chess team. I just naturally good at it. I picked it up that quick. And I was winning that game as well. So yeah, yes. After two weeks after learning, I was playing in the team and winning. So you like the technical side if you enjoy something, isn't it? I like things where you have to think and work things out. And that is what chess it's, it's a hard game to teach someone because you can learn how to move the pieces, but it's knowing what to do with them. And that is the Battle of chess knowing what to do. Yes. Now. What am I really?

Trev:

Yeah, yeah,

Wayne:

we do. We do. We do a very basic amount of research for this show, Gary? You know that you think it was like a panorama? But we, we, we found out? I don't know, obviously you play chess and you play it to a great level. But we found out that it's like the origins of chess go back about 1500 years, apparently, in India, right,

Gary:

though it does go back a long way. And I think you're right, actually, yeah, you're right. Does it? Did it originate in India? I believe it does go back a long way. I mean, medieval, sort of, he comes with the medieval fame as well. That pulls you in as well.

Trev:

He said, Well, the PCs are named after Gary. They really didn't sort of medieval side of it. Well, I

Gary:

don't know really, to be honest. I mean, I don't know. I mean, when you learn as a kid, poems or problems,

Wayne:

you be careful what you say Trevs on

Gary:

call souls. And I wish I could say

Trev:

that, yeah,

Gary:

yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's the way we sort of learned ways like that in the early days. But you know, the trouble with chess, there is so many different ways you can go with a game. Now, obviously, I could have got to a really high level, if I'd have studied. And that means heading chess books all the time, learning every possible scenario opening when I'm most played at you. But I couldn't do that. To play to play.

Trev:

Right. So yeah. So what you're saying is, can you read about all these moves? Or do you practice it against yourself? Or do you go back?

Gary:

Well,back in the day, when I was obviously only seven, eight, I wanted to play 24. Seven. But obviously, we didn't have the internet. So I could only play at school. And my poor mom went to the library and got a book. Like sort of four hours, and she learned that she learned to play, but are then back in tears because she weren't any good.

Wayne:

She tried to make you dinner.

Trev:

I do that because I just got beat full stop by my parents.

Wayne:

Get your world's smallest violin out.

Trev:

Gary, when you

Wayne:

start playing I know I used to play chess funny enough a similar kind of ages you started and then it's all give it up because patients needed i think but I know the first thing you kind of learn once you've learned the basics is the Is it free move checkmate or something?

Gary:

Well, that's obviously what you do. As a kid. There's two there's even a two movement. There's what? There's what they call the falls mate, which is, which is a full move, mate. But you only play that on people that really haven't got a clue. So and you know, they're absolutely

Wayne:

because they'll just laughing because you're doing joy. Yeah,

Gary:

yeah. But the one thing that I've learned over the years and I would never ever, ever do it again, is sitting down in front of a child. I'm thinking this is gonna be easy. Because I come know, yeah. Yeah, cuz

Trev:

really keep me as good as I was called me.

Gary:

To be honest. I played a lot of my best chess as a kid, purely because I had no worries. I had a clear head every day when I went. So I had no work. No mortgage, no bills, no oversight. Yeah. And that's when I play my best chess. Because when I sit down at the fold, that's all I've got in there is that game? I'm not thinking I've got to do that job tomorrow. There's nothing in there. It's an empty head. So as a kid, yeah.

Wayne:

You should be good at this. Trevor is about empty heads. Yeah.

Trev:

You could that you could have that worldwide you could have. Remember, I never forget, vengeance is a dish served cold. Oh, come on, Bill.

Wayne:

Thanks very much for that this is about chairs. Gary, do the same thing in reverse then. So when you've had a bad day, maybe can you actually focus on a game and it relaxes you in the by the same token,

Gary:

you can do because you can turn off from life. I look at it as that. I mean, basically because I still play for a league. Now. If you've had a bit of a rough day, or everything's on your mind sitting down and getting stuck into a gamma ray, but these games are sort of half hour, they can go on for two, three. I mean, the longest game I played was four and a half hours straight off. So it's Yeah, yeah. That I can be quite telling. So once you get into it, it's Yeah, so like, yeah, like though, because you do drift off into another well, but the worst thing about it all is the mindset of win, winning, losing and drawing. If you play a game for four hours, When you're when you're buzzing, you play for four hours and you lose. It can really, really exact Yeah. It really does knock you for six.

Trev:

Because that sounds similar to sort of you know why? why that is, but that spoke about I think. Yeah. Yeah. Because obviously, if you play it, if you've got a nice clear kind of head and you're in a good zone, you can have the best round of golf ever. But again, you can go out and collect all the worries in the world. And that's all out on there. And I've never really thought chess was like that, Gary, that's opener for me. I never really thought it was a very kind of stressful. Yeah, yeah. That's why you want to go with

Gary:

our ministry, everything else. It depends how you go with it. I mean, sometimes, if I play a game now, a few years ago, I actually stopped playing half my first season, because I wasn't enjoying it. I was losing, but it's not the losing that bothers me. It was how I was losing. I was just throwing games away after 20 minutes driving all the way at farrokh and losing after 20 minutes because I've basically played like an idiot. So pretty mildly so I basically I'm just gonna retire. But he's rubbish. I can't be doing this. I will. But I took four months off. And I needed it cleared my head and I couldn't make it back again.

Wayne:

But it says a lot about you that you come back to it not being funny game because a lot of people I would have just given that up forever after

Gary:

it. Well, yeah.

Trev:

Gary's love for an old isn't it? Yeah,

Gary:

exactly. Well, yeah, because the thing is, as a kid, I mean, obviously, when I left basically, I had my best hires at Junior School at Temple satin basic. Basically, once we got into a year, I think it was the last two years. I was on bald one captain. And obviously I loved it. When I was winning. I think I only lost two games out of 200. Free. But I was just Yes. This is kids level. But if you have a you as a kid yourself carry. That's the thing.

Trev:

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Gary:

Yeah, yeah. But the worst thing was, is when I left to go to senior school, there was no, there was no chess at senior school. So I kind of knocked it on the head a little bit. But the other thing is, well, when you

Trev:

get back into it, Gary,

Gary:

well, I've never not got out of it. But then my, my brother got an Amiga 500. Remember? Then he got 500. He got a chess game for it. So I used to go in there when he worked on it and have a little little temper with that, just to keep my eye in. course, the other thing is when you get to 13 I don't associate chess as being cool. And I wanted a girlfriend so I kind of thing because people like this image of chess, but it's just another picture boys.

Trev:

Would you go off lightly Gary. I was absolutely was hailed out as he wasn't always on. Yeah, whatever.

Gary:

Yeah. Well, they used to be a competition held at the Civic Center every Easter. And I'd played that as a kid. I mean, I thought, well, I'm gonna have a guy who's an adult. So I think I was about 15. I say I don't I was still at school, but I had to go at the age of 15. I went back and had a go. I lost four games, five games held over four days. I lost four in a row and I wasn't going to go back to the last day. And that's sort of a mom said go back just just sportsmanship on your opponent. Otherwise, he's not gonna have a game. It's a so I went back five in a row. And I was shattered absolutely shattered for loser that it basically dumped me. But I think four years later, I went back again. I won four out of five and come runner up well,

Wayne:

good stuff. Yeah, we got Rocky. Rocky field right there.

Trev:

Yeah,

Wayne:

I wish I had that queued up or not that good Gary, unfortunately.

Unknown:

Exactly. Exactly. Man just

Gary:

came around. I had to realize that you can't play the kid game against the adults and I had to come home and have a real good rethink and redo my game and change it Oh yeah. Start looking at books to have a little look at what the best way to go is and that's why I did I changed the way of thinking did I didn't think he

Trev:

will store your this. Your inspiring story has made me want to make a film and write a script about this. But already been done as in it. moves. Oh, Night Moves.

Wayne:

He's got his own background.

Trev:

Anyway, but there was a program on Netflix. I did see the first what was it called?

Gary:

Queen's gambit? On the Queen's gambit. Absolutely. Fantastic. Yeah,

Unknown:

it was good was it I saw the first.

Gary:

I could totally see exactly. emotions when everything she was going through. But she was an absolute genius at the game. She She knew the game inside and out. She she could play a guy,

Trev:

Gary.

Gary:

I don't know. Actually, that's a good question. Am I by the way? Oh, actually, I'm not sure it may well be actually I think it might be look that up

Trev:

he or she messages and tell us? Yeah.

Gary:

Yeah. I'm not quite sure on I should know, but I don't. But so cracking. What was good about it? There's a lot of people that watch that, but don't like Chester said they enjoyed it. Because you didn't have to understand what they were doing on the board to enjoy that program. Yes, obviously, obviously, I'm looking at is, but obviously I'm staring at the board all the time and watching what I do. And I'm thinking there's nothing going on that bit of paper. So I could tell but you could still enjoy that series about playing chess. That was the beauty of it. Get into it. You may even make you want to play chess even

Wayne:

you said about that Gary, and been in a program and be a feature in chess. There's lots of movies. I can't name them now. But they seem to be like Central Park in New York or something. And they have like sit down chess tables and they time it. Is that quite common? Yes.

Gary:

That is one of my ambitions. I would love to hustle in New York Park. Yes out there is one of my dream things to do. Go to New York as number one. hassle and hassle. The chess players in the park.

Trev:

Yeah. Yeah.

Gary:

If you went there, you'd have to do that, wouldn't you? You'd absolutely I'd be strike their best speeches. That's where you play maybe 345 minutes ago. And it's quick, quick, rapid checks. Bang, bang, bang. I play that a lot. Now on my phone is a chess site I go on. And I play three minute chess, because it's just quick and fast. You'll lose as many as you win. It's not the right light. But it's fun. It's a

Wayne:

different strategies. Don't do that quick. You probably have your own strategy. So yeah,

Gary:

yeah. You could just throw pieces all over the place and there's no right or wrong. It's just good fun. But that is a good call about that. I'd love to do that.

Trev:

That thing did I play some money then?

Gary:

in the park over there? You can do it. I don't know how much they pay for mine. You pay for $5 Yes, golf I believe so. Yeah. The hustles Yeah, you can have someone sit down and play and yeah, I believe. I believe money does change hands on that I believe. Yeah.

Wayne:

when when when you said about playing on the Amiga Gary. Obviously a lot. When when I was growing up. There was the number one player in the world. I think his name was jenica bollock or something Kaspar off on a story that was closed off or something. But he he was getting a lot of money, obviously, from putting his name to some of these computer programs that mean they sort of put his brain not his brain into it, obviously. But it did I say, No, and he was no.

Gary:

I mean, he actually took on an IBM computer. Yes, I remember that. Yeah. Yes. Cracking thing to watch, because he couldn't get his head around it. Because that computer because normally computers know what you're gonna do. And yeah, I think the computer beat him. And he was shocked.

Wayne:

Surely a computer can play a perfect game. Connie, I can't see how you can be if he's

Gary:

a travel Weaver computer is they don't make mistakes like a human does. Yeah. So so you pretty much know what they're gonna do to a faction, because they're playing the obvious. Now with me. I remember playing a guy about six years ago in a Congress. And we played for about three hours. And I beat him. And he come out and he says to me, Oh, you did that open and you did the English opening? You might I don't know what you're on about what you want about the Queen's game bit the king's opening. I said, may I play to play? Because Paul says, Well, that was a hell of a game. He says I couldn't keep up with you. Like me? And I said, Well, I just play a play. I said, I don't study. I just see the PCs as I see them. And I move what I feels right. If it's wrong, it's wrong.

Trev:

That's how I play you mentioned in you mentioned in the word con, is that what you call around of chest in a cold? Congress is

Gary:

what you would address competition is called a Congress. Yes, yes. So any any test is called a Congress.

Trev:

Yeah, right. Yeah. One of our co hosts should have done a bit of reference on the out but although he hasn't

Wayne:

even gone to one right you just work. Got tester guests coming up talking of which this actually, Gary, if you don't mind a new segment for this season we're doing the test the guest, which is not just pressure on you. Trump likes to join him because he didn't want to be left out in this season. Are

Unknown:

you up for that? Oh, test, test, test test. Um, I'll start you off with a,

Wayne:

I mean, one that you'll just be able to answer like Carol Vorderman on a countdown competition. And this is this is Gary. Question one. What is the total number of squares on a chessboard? Do you want me?

Gary:

Oh, I think I think I'm all right on that one. Eight times. 864.

Wayne:

There you go. This is the sort of questions we're talking about.

Trev:

Which he comes out of the traps like a fly I didn't

Wayne:

fly or settle you in. So the question to Trev now this again, interesting. Which piece could be checkmated? in chess? Do you want the multiple choice answers? Yes. Is it King, B, Queen, or C night?

Trev:

From my tiny bit of knowledge about chess, say King because that's the highest ranked as your favorite pop star.

Gary:

That's why you said it.

Trev:

love and pride. And what?

Wayne:

I'm gonna have to turn this up a bit now, Gary, unfortunately, yeah. What is the name of the governing body of international chess competition? Do you want the answers or the possible?

Gary:

displays? Yeah, give me the choices. Okay,

Wayne:

so it's I international Chess Federation fi F phi d? Is it the international CIT international sorry, chest organized chest, chest. chest and it organized? No, that's Trevor's favorite chest organization Ico, or is it the international chess Association?

Gary:

I see. I I think now I'm not sure but I think to have a sense of

Wayne:

Oh thank god you said that because this chess thing I don't know.

Unknown:

Why well, Ryan's coming out brains. I like to do these much

Wayne:

knowledge the simple ones to Trev

Gary:

adorable.

Wayne:

Yeah, it was a bit more difficult one Oh, and going back to the simple ones now just for trip. trip. Which is the most powerful piece on a chessboard?

Gary:

Is it a king? b

Unknown:

queen or C night

Trev:

well Surely it's got to be king again as

Wayne:

Carrie Do you want to put him right on this one place?

Gary:

Yes, yes the Queen Trev

Wayne:

he gets half a point bonus

Trev:

some issue some kind of like New Age sexual thing the

Wayne:

Queen can do anything apart from what a knight can do.

Gary:

very fair to Kings the worst piece of it

Wayne:

can only move one space

Gary:

voltage

Trev:

I don't know anything about it. See? Oh, here we go.

Wayne:

clueless hasn't even done any research as he likes to put it Yes. I think I'll go to Gary for one more this Gary. I don't expect you to know this. But this is just a curveball one is just fill people in the chase swing but who was generally recognized to be the first world chess champion in 1886. Trevor remember this but

Gary:

was it grip was there Yeah, he

Wayne:

was there. He watched it live and that's why no so much. But that good guy was not escaped to victory. Is it I Wilhelm Steinitz? Is it be Stefan Leibnitz or see Alexander Pavlov?

Gary:

So it's

Wayne:

Stein it Stefan Leibnitz or Alexander Pavlov?

Gary:

I haven't gotten clear if I was gonna have a stab. I would say see

Wayne:

he's not gonna say we didn't expect to know that. Well Jeff don't for anyone knows that when I say safe trip does. Would

Gary:

you ever guess that this

Unknown:

is it will heal more, Stephen. Well,

Trev:

remember, you've you've taken out one of the equations I've got with an unfair advantage is

Wayne:

5050. Go and ask a friend whatever you want to do go.

Gary:

Very quick clap.

Wayne:

Well done. You least you got what half a point. There we go. That's the end. Taste the guest segment. Well done. Very well done. Trev I think you've done a good job. Yeah,

Trev:

very good. Good

Wayne:

stuff. Thank

Gary:

you. Thank you. So,

Wayne:

so Gary going back to the chest. And to give people a bit of knowledge, where would you recommend to people that are listening? I mean, he's chasing something that last year your whole life it's not as if you lose your fitness. Do you get worse at it, though? Is your your faculties might as you get older, maybe

Gary:

you get terrible as you get older.

Wayne:

Like everything.

Gary:

Like everything goes down. I know. I've been I've been seasons upon seasons of nightmares about saying that we've just started playing in a league, one of the test sites, because obviously we can't make up at the moment. And the first two games, I bought them both. So I think better than me, so it started off quite well. This season. Things are going okay. Good and long

Trev:

may carry on my no might

Gary:

be nice to get back to leak checks, again, where we play in the south end and district league where we play against teams like bears.

Trev:

Yeah.

Gary:

Yeah, yeah. Especially the outbox that applied for him. I was it was that then Gary? Well, a few years, a few years back, I remember sitting down to play. And I felt Terry mouse, oh, champion,

Trev:

the fireman, boxer.

Gary:

The man I had the joy of beating him up. Talk to quite quite a lot of pleasure. Very,

Trev:

very good. Gary.

Wayne:

I'm back to you in the rain. I think I think he's older. He's older now. I think he's probably in his late 60s. So even if he wants to have a boxing match, you could probably still take him out dairy. So don't worry about it. No problem. So but

Trev:

you've been? You've been such a good guest. We've got your back on them. Yeah. And you're asked, we've got you know,

Wayne:

but that shows the diversity of the game people like obviously, he's a world class himself as a gladiator of sorts being a boxer. And he's playing chess because he gets that competitive thing out of him.

Trev:

You Yeah, yeah. Very good. I lost this last week, who was an expert and so beauty Oh, he tried to con me to say that. You do what he did. He tried to pull the green field. I tried to tell me this, for some reason, chances to be vo were very similar. And I really said, blah, blah, blah. What do you think Gary?

Gary:

Briana, I've never played supposed to, but obviously, I know that guy might be on to something a little bit. Because it's really, it's got to be tactical, because you're you've got you've got to think where you're flicking. So maybe there is something in that. Maybe could be on something because he's obviously got to think what he's gonna do next.

Wayne:

I think he wants to play chess and flick the pieces around on there. I think that's what this is just a caning exercise. This one me against trip. Sorry about that. We're taking it away from the church. He's been horrible.

Trev:

But Gary's easy to join a club, kind of so if I wanted to join now? Would it be easy for me to join a club?

Gary:

Absolutely. I mean, basically, our clubs, Luke's is always looking for new members, and new members are always welcome. Well, doesn't matter what age you are, doesn't matter on your level of play. Doesn't matter at all. Obviously, it helps if you know a little bit. But obviously, if it's something you really want to do in your life, as a hobby, why not?

Unknown:

Why not? We're

Gary:

always welcome the members.

Wayne:

Is it mostly men, Gary, or is it mixed?

Gary:

chess? It's Bass Mix. But I would say there's more men than there are women that play is that because of the sort

Wayne:

of, because it's the kind of connotations with war kind of thing. I suppose it appeals to men more or I really don't know. I mean, it took too much time on their hands. Maybe

Gary:

some of our girls are very good. I mean, one of our junior girls, she she moved away to America with her parents, but I believe she's doing really well. I've been able to chess, she's winning things and doing very well. But now it's a unisex game, but it does seem to go more for the men, I suppose. You walk into competitions and it's all these men.

Trev:

And what

Wayne:

what about the collectible side Gary do Is it something like when you're into it like you are? Do you collect certain boards and things and pieces.

Gary:

You could go I mean, I have got the skinny side. I've got sort of like a Simpsons. I've gone down side with the PCs. But there are some very, very nice PCs. Yeah. And they add up they go for sort of real sort of proper money. Because people don't know. Yeah. So walk into like a diner lounge and you'll see a coffee table. And if it's a nice one, it does look nice. It does look good. It's

Trev:

really if you had a chessboard because he's chess, he's quite associated with kind of intelligence as well, isn't it? If you're a good chess player, you don't really think the brain power winds Got that? Good. You had a chessboard, it would be something that you could buy to sort of impress people and people get to know you play chess. Oh, yes. Um,

Gary:

you could go, you could buy your fancy again, then you'd be called out went? Yeah. And then you go. Yeah.

Wayne:

Well done. Breslow, round of applause, please return.

Trev:

one handed.

Wayne:

I was thinking, Gary, as you were saying that, because I don't suppose you mind me saying but you're in your, in your profession, your ceramic tile of high quality from what I understand. And that, obviously is quite tactical, in the sense of setting out and everything else, especially with the kind of designs and they do. And I think actually, some of that kind of brain juice that you use for chess is used in your in your profession is to a certain degree, maybe?

Gary:

I really don't know. I mean, I suppose to a degree.

Trev:

I mean, we're coming out with that was very clever. I must admit.

Wayne:

He's trying to redeem himself now that

Gary:

when I'm doing when I'm when I'm doing black and white.

Wayne:

Metro Yeah, or something.

Gary:

When I'm doing a Victorian or why don't we wait over there. And

Wayne:

there we go. We're given an idea there for you for a new toilet. For all of us that one. To see, is there anything else you want to know trip before we sum up today? Well, before we finished up today?

Trev:

Well, to be honest, it does sound like it's quite a good hobby, to be honest. And he comes across quite sort of sexy, really, I think, you know, this kind of technical side of it. And, you know, I must admit, it has made me a little bit interested in it. It really has. I must, I would like to have a look into this. I think, brilliant,

Wayne:

what you've done, Gary, you've done that you've got you've definitely changed. I think that if we go that far. But it still is a good start. And is it just quick, Gary, would you where's the best place for somebody start just go and buy a cheap chess set and play? or play on a computer? What could be our

Gary:

berries, so many online sites? Now? You're better off just going online and playing a few games on now? The ca get on? I mean, I play every day? Because what was the lockdown? I've been off? I've got a site. I go and I just tinker with it every day quick game. Yeah. And I don't really leave it alone. But yeah, that's the best place to start. And if you get really cold, then you can think oh, maybe I'll join a club. go on from there. Brilliant.

Trev:

Sorry. What would you on your phone? You said earlier, didn't you? So what site would that be?

Gary:

It's, it's called like chase Li chase.com.

Trev:

Because we might be putting we'll

Wayne:

put that resource in the show notes. So people can go to that thing. Yeah,

Gary:

it's a good one. It's free. It's free. There's no adverts, you can just get straight on there. You can just play it, you just get straight on there and play. And you can shoot Yeah. And you can choose the length of the game you want. If you want to play a 45 minute game, you can if you want to play a three minute game you can. So it's that's the beauty of that site. You can play at any length of game you want. So you haven't got a rush. Take your time. Lovely. And then you go

Wayne:

into a go chess from start to finish from Gary, we really appreciate your time today, Gary, if it was really informative.

Trev:

It's been very, very good to be enjoyed coming in.

Gary:

My pleasure. Thank you.

Unknown:

Thank you, Gary. Thanks, Gary.

Wayne:

Thanks very much for that Gary. I found that really interesting. And I can't believe that a world champion boxer he play chess but then thinking about it. That's kind of that gladiatorial thing of it and said that to Gary, you know, maybe that's, that's why there's tactics and things. What do you think truth

Trev:

shows you what different people do different things really.

Wayne:

I think it just shows different strokes for different folks as I say,

Trev:

that's it. Yeah. What are you talking about? I knew

Wayne:

that one up and that wasn't scripted.

Trev:

So I'm it sounds like it sounds like take it very seriously, which I don't have is a problem there. I never thought to be nice. I didn't think it would be like laugh a minute. I like the idea of the speed chess. Yeah, I think the good thing about that is is people just see it as like a really long drawn out game. Yeah,

Wayne:

it's a bit similar to golf last a lot of T 20s. a cricket as well is

Trev:

that Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I think these things that takes it away but if you could play I think as well. The whole idea of playing chess on your phone in its dinner in your free time. I think that's a good idea as well. Can't see myself it's fun games might it's not it's not your fingers. We've spoken he I remember very quickly about chairs. One thing I do remember about chairs and it shows you what a film geek I am. I'm sure McCready in the thing is playing chess, isn't it? Yes, yes. He gets fed up with it, because it can be a beat. That's right. And he pulls his drink in I don't know what what but he pauses drinking and I have to watch it again. Or if anybody knows straight off the

Wayne:

record, it was an AML podcast mug Yay.

Trev:

before it could be destroyed because of the age of it. I'm sure he put the pocket down doesn't he? I don't know. I'm gonna watch again. Yeah, someone else knows by all means.

Wayne:

Just Yeah, please do yeah, as always, if you want to know anything else about chess, we can always ask the guest after hours. I know sounds a bit risky. We'll ask him any questions you got a mlo podcast.com that use the blue voicemail or send us a message you can do either we always look forward to hearing your messages.

Gary:

So yeah, I

Wayne:

like chess I just like Gary explained he he he give it up for a while is the headspace I don't want to stress myself out of my age. Because my blood pressure so I that's why I struggled with it. I might try out I've got two or three chest sets. I might dig it out play the little and because he likes it he's dying to get to that age where he likes it now but I don't want to be beaten by him so i'd you know so it's

Trev:

exactly love to beat you in the head that yes, I think it's one over one over the the adults in it

Wayne:

or yourself and myself maybe should play chess by chess by post or wherever it used to be. Maybe first class stamp is too expensive. I

Trev:

can't afford 75 years to do. Yeah, but why did I do that? The idea of that kind of thing. Like send one move. And I'm like, Yeah, yeah, that's cool. It

Wayne:

will never finishes we'll never get stressed out about

Trev:

this. I had last two movies. Call me Bob with this.

Wayne:

Think about that. Maybe we can put that because actually talking to these guests. You start skiing you your juices flowing, so to speak. There's a little bit you did promise at the start. I knew it was gonna go basis. But anyway, thanks for listening to this episode. As always, everyone. Thanks, Gary for coming on today. And we'll see you on the next one cheers trip.

Trev:

again. Bye Bye.

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Gary Perks

Guest

Gary Perks is a Ceramic Tiler by trade and has played Chess to a high level from his time at primary school through to adulthood. The quality that he posseses with his chess skills has led him to games against famous faces and top level chess players. To find out more about the adventures of a chess player, you will have to listen to Gary's episode "Playing Chess, Queen Bashes Bishop"