Feb. 14, 2021

Midlife Music - Dancing In The Midlife


Date: 14th March 2021

Name of show: A Midlife Less Ordinary

Episode title and number: Dancing In The Midlife  Se1Ep6

 Brief summary of show:

“Dancing In The Midlife” is an ode to music, an episode of nostalgia and a journey that relates to how we evolve our music tastes over time. Wayne & Trev get straight into a discussion that sets out their early musical influences and how this basically shaped their youth, because as we understand it, everybody has a soundtrack to their life with the ability to evoke certain emotions when deep in thought about the content of their particular soundtrack.

Bullet points of key topics & time stamps:

Trev: 17:57 

Heavy metal kind of changing the Hard Rock because obviously was the grunge thing. Our band, I was in a couple of bands, our guitarist who's dad was American. He went over to America with his girlfriend I remember him bringing me a Mother Love Bone album and a Pearl Jam album first podium album back. So we released into sort of the sort of grunge bands before it was mainstream Soundgarden louder than love


 Wayne: 23:16 

          There's plenty for us to go to where we feel comfortable, isn't there? I mean,        exactly. Yeah. I mean, to be honest, I mean, I know we're talking about festivals and gigs next week, but I mean the amount of bands we don't actually listen to when we go Oh yeah, we'll go to that ZZ Top or on this? We never listen to them. We've only been around in the grass drunk

 


 
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Transcript
intro:

You're listening to a mid life less ordinary, the weekly podcast giving you the lowdown on becoming a cool older dude. The good times are not afraid of memory. It's time to start loving them again. And here are your hosts Wayne and trapped

Wayne:

yeah Hello everyone and welcome to another midlife. midlife less ordinary even. And, frankly, I'm still Wayne and Trev's here.

Trev:

I am here as always.

Wayne:

And today your host, and we're here today to do an episode entitled dancing in I was gonna sing it then but dancing in the midlife, It is not good. Dancing in the midlife and Trev can explain that title to you.

Trev:

Well, it comes from one of my favorite Bob Lee my favorite bands in Lizzie. Probably they're fun keys tune with a funky studio podcast was over.

Wayne:

And it's been re released a few times. hasn't it Trev?

Trev:

Not for the better? No, no,

Wayne:

I don't think we're definitely not go there. I'll definitely upset if that's the case. I don't want to upset you because you're not gonna hear is that awful verse. You're the talent. In my mind, this is a great one. We're going to do a cool music one now I've got I can't even get their name. I don't know you don't want to think of it as fine. But we'll get to that actually. Because today's episode is basically music tastes and how and what? Why should you be listening to a certain genre when you get to a certain age? Obviously, as always, this is our opinion. You don't have to take any of our opinions to heart is meant to be our thoughts and bit of harmless fun. We're just here to say what we think is not cool. And what we hope you'll join us on this journey. so Trev we have obviously mentioned before you've been into music essentially from a single digit age. how did it get started as your love of music.

Trev:

Mine well. musics always been a family. I don't mean performing. I mean, family have always listened to music. But that was a an old school, rockabilly. So he liked all of Eddie Cochran, Jerry Lewis, or with Jerry Lewis, all that kind of thing. So that was about but I think the biggest thing was my older brother who's nine years older than me. And he was a big rock fan. Obviously we're talking of in the 70s though heavy metal heavy rock. So growing up all I heard coming out of his bedroom were bands like Thin Lizzy rush, Motorhead all those kind of bands mount Eden, Rory Gallagher, so it was never forced on me. But when you've got it music banging out the bedroom next to me, you're gonna Of course like to it

Wayne:

Did you like it straight away Trev?

Trev:

Yes from what I can remember So you couldn't help Bobby to be a music wise I think he's you can't force yourself to lock as I tried to gain a bit of soul mix I thought when I was 13 or14 which is obviously when you're thinking about the opposite sex because no one really liked rock music and heavy metal at my school I think I was the only kid in a year that was really into it that you were going to get a girlfriend that I huge that was so important. So I thought by liking different soul music and that

Wayne:

are we talking him Luther Vandross here

Trev:

Oh yeah, that kind of thing. You know, the Pet Shop Boys, boys. Yeah, yeah, they'd have an album by them I'm a prince as well on print which is good that's no disaster because printers ever so good. But yeah, but you want to be more accepted by it. You know, because when you're a kid and you're younger like that, you don't really want to stand out that much. Sometime you want to fit in obviously you want to be part of the cool crowd and all that it never really bothered me. It was more the female side of it.

Wayne:

Yes, that made sense. There is something in common with him. And then

Trev:

it slowly comes back around to you and you just find out that you don't actually like that kind of thing. And I just started getting through bands like you to and the police. Simple Minds. Then I started listening to rush again Genesis. I still like a lot of only prog rock now It went full circle and then obviously I got back into Iron Maiden and that but I was a kid I was just a full on metal head I made and I worship when I was 1011 I was absolutely I made made

Wayne:

really was no saying something to him I mean you use Did you still have the badges and I didn't understand if I'm being honest I was like how somebody's got to love love these bands

Trev:

You know, I've always seen music as as my main lifestyle it's changed the way I've looked behind a whole social life it's never been something that I've just as been in the background. Yeah, I think music has been the main molding of me if that makes this I was never a as I used to call it a weekend rocker where he's worked at net West doing nothing when we've worked in that network. She's probably a good job but you know you there are other banks available already. Oh, same tender like but yeah, I'd never was one to kind of be that guy then at weekends, get the leather jacket out and wear it you know and I was I had both the guys are not about we've we're into it full on your lifestyle. I think a lot of people are still now you do help Dr. Amin was he was true to it all through school.

Wayne:

You went into sixth form at the school we used to attend so I see a few of the guys were into that genre, weren't they?

Trev:

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. The guy was in a band with Neil he was into I think basically I think coin were a big influence was obviously coin where a lot of major hard rock band in the 70s Yeah, and then obviously they changed a lot lot of other bands do and grow on rush dude. And different sounding I think one of the biggest things for a lot of kids are in rock music, like was waiting, like a kind of magic come out because you had the Highlander movie course the soundtrack for that that was a big thing wasn't it? I think even yourself Oh,

Wayne:

that got me you know listening to Queen boy. Yeah, yeah. And

Trev:

that that then then obviously, even quaking up saw progressing. Like maybe a bit of I made a bit of Def Leppard. And then you know, once you and to be honest with music is, is is there to be explored that when you used to get seat albums, or vinyl when I was a kid you The good thing about actually owning vinyl or CD you had the book clear where you you could look at it and you'd see what band aids played with or what Band Aid thing so you'd listen to them and that was how it grew. I don't know how kids do that now. I don't if they go and I suppose they go on their website or YouTube link and find it from there. But yeah, you sit in your bedroom and you'd listen to it. And you'd be sitting there looking at the artwork on the album cover and a special thanks and stuff so that would that would give you an inkling of what to do what to listen to as well. We thought that was great. I thought that was been I feel a bit sorry that it became a bit too disposable now but that's another episode we might definitely discuss that

Wayne:

you do stuff you used to spend many Saturday in a record shop flicking through Oh

Trev:

yeah. Loved it. Yeah. Loved in the bargain. been getting cheap. 12 inch singles. Yeah, it was brilliant. It really was you know, there used to be especially record shops in London that just did heavy metal and heavy rock album did

Wayne:

you use to go to London? Yeah,

Trev:

there's a shop called Shai days ago my cousin and other guys are knocked about with it was brilliant shade was great. You know you get bands turn up there to sign stuff. They because they play a lot Hammersmith which was a big venue in heavy metal those users now please come face to toe now the Apollo, isn't it? I think you get Bands play there or the marquee. And then during the day before they played in the evening, they'd go and sign albums in shades, and you'd queue up outside. Yeah, it was a big thing. It was a lifestyle. So it really was you because you've lived that tribe. And you obviously you you I saw, you know when I bumped into you in your 20, early 20s. Your taste of music has evolved quite vastly since since then. I think it has to I think you can't to be a slight heavy metal heavy rock has always been seen as same as like early rap music and punk has been it's always seen as quite an angry form of music, aggressive. And I think as you get a bit older, you're just got nothing to be that angry about. I know, obviously, there probably is. But you don't without sounding like a cliche. I'm not saying not being mellow. But you do I think, because a lot of the bands would rather listen to the southern rock band or Lynyrd Skynyrd and ZZ Top are a massive fan of both of those.

Unknown:

Music I think when we were kids, they used to be kind of you had your kiddy rock, or your kiddy music. And then you had what your dad listened to. Yeah, but I think whether we've just become those dads that with the sort of driving albums

Trev:

or they get dad this for father's day, he's got like, it's got Boston on it, and he's got Clapton, but maybe that's that. Was it?

Wayne:

A good band? To be honest, that is good. Yeah, they're right. Yeah, but yeah, that's the thing as well. I think maybe because you've gone if you've got a tape recorder genre of music. I look at Yeah, I would say you know, rather than yourself who's who's been into proper artists your whole life. I've been following the generic path of pop music and then getting

Trev:

a mess

Wayne:

because you never know really influenced Exactly. I'm the oldest in my family. I tell you there was no influence there. Well not older than my dad of course or mum come to think of it well, not quiet now. He was very young with me. But he didn't even have a record player. So we did you know, it was limited to Top of the Pops. And what's put in front of you, basically. Yes,

Trev:

you missed that Top of the Pops. I think I can't believe I know you've got channels and music and stuff. But you know, we all sat in

Wayne:

front of it. Didn't we on a Thursday night?

Trev:

It was Yeah, no. Watching no Frankie Goes to Hollywood on there. Yeah, relax. And I see in there things you just said a lot of parents didn't get it. This is like this is what I'm saying that there's no music for the masses. Now I think that there's so many it's more fragmented.

Wayne:

Or you've got the super bands that kind of teeny bop kind of manufactured stuff. And then you've got all the other genres, haven't you?

Trev:

Yeah, exactly. But yeah, that was the thing with tabula pops. It was just on we talked about it the next day

Wayne:

didn't wait did you see something? I never watching the same channel as you now on anything. Oh, wait, unless you tell me to watch a film when it's on.

Trev:

me there are other ones that there is loads of different things and loads of different choices. But I think it waters it all down. Sometimes you can just Yeah, what's on and that sticks with you? That's the reason I think, guys, people have eyes guys and guys and girls. Remember so much for my era because there wasn't much of a bail. So we get to that that's what you do all watched and that you will listen to so it does. Yeah, it does. Does it is a sort of bottom there, isn't it? Yeah, definitely.

Wayne:

We experienced that all the time. I can remember tapes out of your dual cassette deck of

Trev:

the night. Yeah, I used to listen to the Friday rock shows online from midnight till two I think it's when your teen Oh, yeah, yeah, I used to tape them all on like my sort of big old cassette recorder and they used to do live bits from Reading Festival and the Monsters of Rock and you type them in if you'd listened to I'm ever staying up one night because Metallica were on there. And there was just as Justice for always coming out the L mafia, and a died monster puppets. And they were talking that they played harvester of sorrow for the first time. And like, you know, the next day, I didn't stop listening to it. I just kept taking the tape back and but that was part of the beauty of it. He was crying. Yeah, no, but one of the things I think was a big influence on us. And I would have thought you with this idea. I

Wayne:

was gonna say music. I was influenced.

Trevor Deeley:

But yeah, European too. So yeah, it was MTV. Yeah,

Wayne:

it was the MTV generation the video.

Trev:

I lived it. I could have watched when I was between the ages of 15 to 25. I could just leave MTV on 24 hours a day. And just it was just brilliant. It just had every every genre

Wayne:

of music is covered and the videos with so much money have gone into it.

Trev:

Yeah, yeah, exactly. They were it was just the last time. Yeah, definitely. And I think the last time we've only got a look at the November rain video revenue. Yes. Roses. Yes. It's just like a mini movie. They might spend so much money on it. I think the last time I really thought even TV was relevant music video. Roy's was when the Beastie Boys released the sabotage video. Yeah, I think that was the breaking of it. That was that was it? I don't remember there being any. Really? Because again, where do you see music videos now? Unless you watch them on YouTube? You don't know? No, I say I sometimes call Chris Isaac wicked game just because its a good song and video. But they hate him. But even on Channel Four. There was like the chart show on a Saturday morning, wasn't it? Yes, they had different charts for different genres of music. Yes, you might you might get a snippet of a Motley Crue video on their

Wayne:

channel four quite influential in the 80s. Very big

Trev:

was when we were really young and I only really know about that because my brother would watched it and they had a massive acts on it in Lizzie or on it ZZ Top or on it the police were there was like massive acts I think our trainees years I think the one that was there was the word wasn't it? That's it yeah because they had like the Varner on their corrosion conform where you were on there so poultry was that Amanda Cabernet and all there was and Terry Christians are interested in this. And I did some pretty bizarre things but music was keeping on that topic. They had some really really good bands on there five no more on there. So you had all this really diverse music that because he was online you could either Rage Against machine run there. I remember trying to get tickets to go. I think it was when when when chrome conformably wrong. Because we I'd seen crazy performing at the marquee or somewhere quite small. Yeah, the night before and then they because they were touring. They play they need us to get there. But yeah, so MTV was a big thing. Going back to that wasn't it for us

Wayne:

Yeah, I mean, I really could I loved Billy Idol. I had some friends who were punk rockers liking Generation X and clash and I was influenced slightly and then I saw these MTV videos where we've got a bike smashing through windows in a church and rebellious you know, and I'm angry like, Yeah, and I loved it. And I was obsessed. And that's when you start having the hairstyles different and

Trev:

influence your life. It does change. very controversial here.

Unknown:

And by all means leave a message on our on our website, little blue button, your blue microphone bar, but I like a lot of punk you know, Black Flag and the remote, but one punk band I don't like at all the clash. Why is that? Because the commercial just never got it. Just No, I don't know. I just never got them. I just don't see. I just really don't I know. They love him. But I just do not see. It's really weird, isn't it? I don't see the clash. I see him as kind of like the kind of madness of punk rock a feet away kind of you know, they're fun, you know? Yeah, I don't I I've never really been I've never really understood reggae. I've never been a big reggae fan. I know you kind of like more the commercial stuff. Yeah, yes. But that was because I used to look like it more than anything else.

Wayne:

He used to do me well in them day so I thought I better get to know the music

Trev:

obviously No, no no no. That was but yeah I got a gigs as well was a massive thing. We will cover that in the next episode. I believe we're doing gigs we are

Wayne:

Yes. So so so you're selling your music to in your 20s tribute you've gone through your angry stage kind of thing you you stopped wearing

Trev:

heavy metal kind of changing the Hard Rock because obviously was the grunge thing. Our band, I was in a couple of bands, our guitarist who's dad was American. He went over to America with his girlfriend I remember him bringing me a Mother Love Bone album and a Pearl Jam album first podium album back. So we released into sort of the sort of grunge bands before it was mainstream Soundgarden louder than love. And that changed heavy rock and heavy metal because it wasn't leather and stuff anymore. It was the cardigans and moleskin cargo shoes and converse he changed it completely. And that was really the sort of thought of the alternative rock like toll and Nine Inch Nails and that kind of stuff. So yeah, I think when you're into rock music as a genre as a kid, and you and you're into it, you follow it all the way through so you go from liking some of heavy metal and thrash metal then you kind of get into the biker rock or the coal or wood into the coal and AC DC and then obviously the the grunge era and then you get industrial it's there's such a lot of different genres in rock music and then obviously there's not when I was in my early 20s and mid 20s there was a sort of stoner rocker kayas your everything you can never get bored Do you still keep up with it? Because

Wayne:

I notice that even though now your genre of music has changed we'll get to in a minute and you know right round Yeah, you

Trev:

still keep it is it magazines you

Wayne:

keep him with what's going on is new. I

Trev:

still hear I still got kind of magazine, I still get classic rock I don't get sort of kurang on kurang was the Bible back in the day? Yes. But obviously now that it's more of a early sort of late teens and that kind of stuff. So it doesn't really need to deliver billion but now I've stopped getting there. Because you do that. Again, you have to kind of go with this is what we're going to talk about. You have to sort of go with what your age you don't want to be that 40 year old 50 it's up to you. You can if you want to say don't take it Seriously but I just don't think it's very cool 50 year old sort of dancing around to some of the new bands to die

Wayne:

well a little mix

Trev:

well yeah we do know people that like

Wayne:

I think you're talking more about you're talking about more like Linkin Park.

Trev:

Again even they're kind of known as classic to a lot of younger guys and younger people I did like linkin park in my 30s Did you think I'm gonna be mean to you? Because you went we saw them at download

Wayne:

I do like them I did go first

Trev:

it was no it wasn't my thing but I completely understood it so I'm talking about is like the kind of baby mail and stuff when I saw a bit of a good laugh that you know really if if a person's thought a guy in his 50s listen to baby metal What's that about? I don't I don't get that but then that's up to the individual spikes

Wayne:

is there is there plenty of people that are are doing that and listening to that?

Trev:

I think when you I I don't go to a lot of the kind of download festivals and stuff anymore. I'd when I go to well you've been a quite a few of them with us we go to sort of smaller ones on black deer and other ones a smaller ramble in May. And the demographic you get there he's obviously an older person. Yes, because yeah, no, but that see that old I never thought unless when I was younger, I just didn't see it but its cool now to like music when you are older. It's not just a thing that young people listen to anymore, but you've got a classic rock magazine, you've got plenty rock on the radio. There is a sort of demographic of 35 to 60 year olds that Kane still think is cold and listen To hear UFO on the radio and stuff like that. Yeah, this is it. I think that that's opening a new There seems to be a decisive kind of break now between the kind of download kind of group of people that go the younger generation. Yeah, and and obviously, I'm sure you'd go to that if somebody was there. If it was very tempting. I was very tempted last year because the Friday was great. Like, I think three of my favorite bands were on the I know I was really into a band when I was younger called Tesla. And they were playing on it early on the main stage. blackberry smoker I really like Ron and one of my probably my favorite band of the last 20 years clutch we're playing off of blackberry smoke round so it was like the ultimate thing but again, where we live is quite a distance to travel for one day and into come home and they are Don't get me wrong if it would have been it would have been closer it would have been in Milton Keynes like some of the big day out the Metallica stuff, then I would have gone no problem at all. I've got no problem with the festival, just that.

Wayne:

I don't we're not going to be living in a tent these days. Oh, we've

Trev:

gotta be wrong. I really admire people of all ages to do that. Because there is a lobby, we still go to download. There's a lot of people older than and go. But now it's not for me. I don't think it's for you either. Is it?

Wayne:

There's plenty plenty for us to go to where we feel comfortable, isn't there? I mean, exactly. Yeah. I mean, to be honest, I mean, I know we're talking about festivals and gigs next week, but I mean the amount of bands we don't actually listen to when we go Oh yeah, we'll go to that ZZ Top or on this? We never listen to them. We've only been around in the grass drunk

Trev:

that's just the point of getting out having a good time is Yeah, trauma knees if you if you kind of be if you become an again, I'm not having a pop it's just not for me and it's not for you. But if you're one of those people that's got an itinerary of rock chick you're not worried about it's like going on holiday and worrying about doing this it's the idea and enjoy it. Oh and enjoy it. Yeah, so And to be honest, if you stumble a festival you stumble across loads of bands that you never dreamed that you'd listen to or even give the time of data that actually they're quite good. Yeah, so there's exactly i but don't put yourself under pressure trying to run around from stage to stage to catch the by all means say your favorite band. or you really like them? Yeah, by all means,

Wayne:

follow our example pay 150 quid to go and then don't watch anything. Just spend another 100 quid on beer in a day good value to be heard. I loved every single one.

Trev:

Oh, yeah, it was how what bands are the best?

Unknown:

Yeah.

Trev:

I think cuz it used to be people back in the day and I understand Germany so God would know the tracklist twice. I'd be lucky if they turned up on stage. I'd be so drunk. ZZ Top. Yeah. You may remember that you remember was their intro? Yes. I I was lucky. I'm lucky to have seen them at a Wembley. Yeah, I'm glad I saw him before. But I just remember like standing in these fields, the kind of percussion. And it was it

Wayne:

was because they're headlining, it's too late in the day, we've been drinking all day.

Trev:

To be honest, when I was younger, I don't think I ever saw many headliners, because you just had enough of this. I'm going back. So you'd miss like Whitesnake and AC DC for the fifth six. If it was made, and then I'd always see a B make an effort.

Wayne:

And I'm glad it's not only me that's making you miss these things trip. But no, no, no, that didn't sound very sincere trev. But I've now I've got something for you. I don't know we didn't do it last week. But I've got a little surprise, we will bring you back test tray for this week. And I'm not gonna And there we go. There's some metal to get you in the zone. And yes, I'm comfortable. Got up now. We've got four questions on Thin Lizzy. Now really, you embarrassed right now, you know, I'm not being funny. You visited his grave? You've spoke to his mother. And yeah, so you know, there's no pressure here at all. I would expect you to know the answers to these these are actually multiple choice questions now do I'm going to ask why do you want me to give you the multiple choice answers or do you want to try and guess it without having them? Or do you want ever got the first one to see how you get on? Let me get a first one because that's like having a got someone on a quiz show when I say what do you want to gamble the

Trev:

brain?

Wayne:

Do there's no money involved to your trip? That you're not gonna get rich is nice. Okay, well, I'll give you the first one.

Trev:

I was the first one. All right,

Wayne:

which band opened for Thin Lizzy at the first ever slain concert in Ireland in 1981.

Trev:

Something tells me it's u2 So do you want me to go through the options? Just to go

Wayne:

Would you like to stick with that and look really clever, or really not clever?

Trev:

Whichever way you think it might go? For some reason. It's up to you to or the Boomtown rats.

Wayne:

Are they I? I've given you two. I've helped you too much in the past Trev with this and I'm not going to do any more because you're making you look good. And it's not. It's not good for me. But do you? What do you want to go with? You? No go with you u2 Oh, yeah, I don't. And that's why I've given it to you because he's done this to be before. And I can't handle it. You say something? You said Oh, I know. I'm going back in time, but a beard one? Oh, yeah, testosterone would make your beard but I'm gonna go for wisdom teeth. And I'm like, why? You've just explained the answer.

Trev:

I think that's fair to give that to you. Because you said your two first and if I didn't know why he would have been different if I said the boom j always say go with you got done. They go over again. I do. Yeah. And I have got a good guy. You're gonna know this one I know without telling what Finn Lizzie song contains the lyrics roll me over and turn me around. cowboy. So

Wayne:

yes, well done.

Trev:

And you say this is a multiple choice. little bit of trivia big heavy metal band back in the day white lion. Their lead singer Mike trim who I did think I was at one voice, hair and stuff. And I was in a band that he used to listen to that every time before I went onstage. Yeah, inspiration. Yeah, he did. He used to use a use a piece headband on the staff. And he would always listen to the cowboy somebody Lizzie because he was so into music. Well, thanks for that Trev

Wayne:

And I'm sure you I'm sure you will probably hear so you probably know this one. Yeah, who did thin Lizzie tour with in 2004. I can give you the four possible answers if you're gone. Okay. I know that you said this would mean I can just not All right. Well, no, by the way you say it's over YouTube. Guns and Roses. Deep Purple. Are the Rolling Stones. Guns and Roses. No. Really? Really? I'll give you two sad trombones and just because really, it's deep purple. Oh Christ. Why oh,

Trev:

no, no, no, they did play with because that was obviously the Scott Gorham. Ricky Warrick one. I know. They played with Guns and Roses as well. On

Wayne:

Yeah, that's why they're included in the four answers. Yeah, as I say it's not us but we'll go on to number four. And what thin Lizzie song hit number one in Ireland in 1972 to 73 Do you want the four possible answers 1972 73 a cowboy song. Whiskey in the jar. The boys are back in town or do anything you want to what thin Lizzy song hit number one in Ireland 1972 to 73.

Trev:

whiskey in a jar

Wayne:

well done Trev that's not a bad showing at all. I don't think soon as you got two of them without the four possible answers. I think you've you've kept your dignity.

Trev:

So yeah, that for you.

Wayne:

Is it true? You finished his trip there so you can relax again? Get some red wine down there. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I like that little segment They will say when it gets your brain working. Yeah. Yeah.

Trev:

Okay, yeah.

Wayne:

saying things like, what Russian artists? Yes. 16th century? Yeah. Yeah, thanks for that trouble. Yeah. Give me the multiple choice cuz I'm sure I get it. Yeah. So whodyanickabolockoff. That's the one isnt it? so, now yet up to now Trev. we've, we've, you know, I'm leaving some of your new music tastes now. You know, the kind of country scene. We've been to some of the festivals great. I'm really digging the new music genre, so I can really enjoy kind of grower, isn't it? Yes.

Trev:

And don't get me wrong, get something to be 10 years ago, and I never would have believed I'd be listening to solve a lot of the country I listen to now. But it's mellow. It's got a cool vibe. What I like about a lot of that kind of thing is obviously it's still a bit rock and roll. Yes. Still a bit bad. Although I think the trouble is it was kind of when garage grunge came out and don't get me wrong. It needed to kill off so the hair male and bands on dock and a motley crew, but there was no real rock stars anymore. I think when people were missing zombies. Yeah, you do need ease rock and roll still. So you need to like drink a bit of whiskey you need to you know you need to. It's an escape, isn't it? Yes, that's the thing. It's like it shouldn't be you know, you want it all you know, people. If you're in a state like that, you wouldn't have got folk heroes like Lemmy and stuff. No exactly just epitomized rock I think the nearest one out of all of them, so I'm a massive fan of them, but I know people love them. I don't dislike them a lot with the Foo Fighters Dave Grohl seems to have become this rock a mecca doesn't he? Yeah, you know, the nice man of rock and I get it and i think i think it appeals to everyone. You definitely needs that because you want personalities in it Alice Cooper and stuff you don't when music becomes that this is enough faceless music out there. You know you need someone I think so for our generation anyway, would you say that?

Wayne:

If I was to sum up your music tastes now that you know you haven't got particular I know you still have Yeah, all of it but as a whole now what you would put your name down to go and see somebody like the Super soccers or something.

Trev:

Yeah. A clutch clutch attaches well, so of course Yeah, gotcha. Yeah, Carter, the band that you know when they play with Thin Lizzy and Motorhead. It was like a dream come true to me. seen them support the good thing unclutch have changed a hell of a lot in since I've liked them. You know, they were a lot kind of harder and not a punk band, but they had a bit of a punk influence. He was a lot Kinder. And now they've got that kind of laid back ZZ Top bluesy feel. blues is a big thing for me as well now. Yes, Stevie Ray Vaughan is listening to stuff like that blue band or not. They're a bit commercial. They're really good. Like King King. There's a story spade. Yeah, the whole blues is very emotional music. So outlawed rock. blues rock is very emotional news. I think. Southern rock. Yeah. Yeah. When you get to the side you get a bit reflective? Yes. Or you look back on you know, and that and I think that kind of genre of music. Does it very well. Yeah, yeah. I Yeah, I think so.

Wayne:

I really enjoyed the gig sees that, you know, I never feel out of place when we go to you know,

Trev:

no, I you know, I still go to I still want to go to the sort of stoner rock festivals. Like, you know, that one that we've been to a couple of times, that's really good because I like a lot of bands from that genre. The desert fest which is in Camden years great. Yeah, you've been haven't you.

Wayne:

Yeah, its a really good festival. But we have seen people like john Garcia that

Trev:

is a big, big influence. For me. It was a massive influence. For me when I was singing in the two bands, especially the second band. I really thought I was JOHN Garcia got it and I did look like the dude

Wayne:

that I think a few people think theyre john Garcia don't know trooper all they do is they say that john Wright is seen as a god.

Trev:

was that fu man chu coming in

Wayne:

I wish I was that good that I could queue up music we are a podcast that don't edit out the technical issues, everyone could even get the name of the podcast right at the start. So, you know, me being a dumbass. That's all it is. I think that brings us nicely nicely up to the summary trev. So I think yeah, go So to summarize, exactly, there's about the same level be another episode So yeah, to summarize trev. I mean, this is our opinion. And you know what, we know what's not cool? I think you've summed up already dancing around when you're in your 50s to Little Mix or linkin park?

Trev:

party with your little niece Yeah, that's cool. No, that's great. Nice. Yeah, that's sweet. Yeah, that is sweet. But if honestly, you don't want to be download taking yourself seriously. Yeah, it's not good. Music doesn't matter. Music is cool full stop. Because it's a way of expression. In Motion, everything. It'll always be called music. But I think sometimes how old you are with the music you're listening to. I know. People go and see this steps reunion. And it's probably quite a laugh. But it's me selling my tickets now and stop. Stop how is it really Let's be honest.

Wayne:

Let's just move with the times. Yeah,

Trev:

yes. Yeah. And the same with bands. Where do you see? I bet are going to say I was going to mention a name of a great lead singer, who is in one band I absolutely love. Now, but again, it's the same as bands wearing certain stuff on stage. Yeah. So Oh, come on. Let's really buy Oh, I wont mention Paul Rogers

Wayne:

no dont mention him Trev

Trev:

the whole bling thing. One of the funniest things very quickly before we go in the summary. I went to see Whitesnake, yeah. And David Coverdale who dont get me wrong it looks incredible. His hair is immaculate still. And he said to the crowd, he said, you know, you've been with us all these years. And here's another 20 and a bloke behind the show. He said, Get stuffed Dave, you'll be 85 then, which was quite funny. Last year on our level, they hope they listening to this podcast is very funny.

Wayne:

I think you've summed it up nicely.

Trev:

Yeah, basically what I mean it's like, oh, means, I love what you love. But music wise, be very discreet. If its not cool Yeah, you don't? Cuz Yeah, exactly. It's where your music taste on your sleeve. But don't go around in a little minx t shirt.

Wayne:

Do you agree with us? Maybe not. If you don't agree with us, go please go to our website, as always is a www amlopodcast.com. You don't even have to type you just click on the blue icon leave us a voicemail. And you know, some of the best we'll play them on the on the show. Yeah. I'd love to get some feedback on this. Yeah, that's exactly it, it's gonna, it's gonna cause a bit of a offence to some. But you know, that's what we're not to cause offense to people. But we're here to give our opinion and just have a bit of fun along the way. So please do get involved. Leave us a message. As always Trev It's been a pleasure spending more time with you again. Yeah.

Trev:

This is this is my thing. Music is my theory is your thing. Yeah, there will be revisiting this at some point. Hopefully the next one we can do that gigs and that we've enjoyed the demographic of who goes to gigs and what kind of gigs next time that'd be a great show to do I look forward to it. Trev Yeah. Well, thanks again. Thank you very much. We'll see you all next on the next one. Yep. See you then.

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