April 18, 2021

Life of An Actor: Act Richard Act!


Transcript

intro:

You're listening to a mid life less ordinary, the weekly podcast giving you the lowdown on becoming a cool older dude. The good times are not a faded memory. It's time to start loving them again. And here are your hosts Wayne and Trev. Yeah, Hello

Wayne:

everyone. Welcome to a mid life less ordinary. And I'm Wayne. Hello Trev

Trev:

I am lycra made

Wayne:

you get more random every week. So for this week's subject something that's close to our hearts we've spoke about it before. We love movies and everything so we want you to get an actor on a working actor that is and we've been lucky enough to get Richard our lawyers a working actor. He's going to tell us the life of an actor how we get started. What kind of jobs you get the reality of being an actor basically. Yeah, we didn't want anything to flash we just wanted to Johnny Depp when he came on and wanted to be part of a because of his problems elsewhere.

Trev:

This is not what we wanted. We wanted a real

Wayne:

we wanted a real Yeah, exactly. He's got a proper job. Yeah, I mean, Richard said some parts in riser the foot soldier free Welcome to ravensword amongst these credits, a lot of theater work. And he and he can basically anyone who's interested in becoming an actor, hopefully find out what life is really like. So we hope you enjoy our episode entitled life of an actor act rigid act. And today we have Richard with us who's an actor and he's going to tell us all about acting funny enough

Richard:

to not bore your senseless with it because it's you know, it's one of those things some people find it interesting. Some people don't should have said hello at the start. That would have been nice without

Trev:

welcome Richard.

Richard:

I'm pretty sure I'll be one of your biggest Gremlins. Let's probably just get out of the way nice.

Wayne:

Gremlins Did you by the way

Unknown:

I'd love to God

Richard:

about five years time I'm up here I will put you down for your

Trev:

target job Danya cogs I've got his number. Yeah.

Wayne:

Get to meet Richard. My first question to you would be how did it all start for you? I mean, wasn't the casting couch was

Richard:

oddly enough. Never been too much. If you ever see my if you ever see my headshot you'll understand why. No. Give it away.

Trev:

Is he allowed to just say fake tax he just wants and

Wayne:

always lowers the tie. Wow.

Unknown:

Yeah. What else

Richard:

would you carry you make you make one fake taxi movie? And then he's talking

Wayne:

about Uber? Obviously he's not talking about anything else. Yeah.

Richard:

Yeah, well, how did it start for me? Well, I mean, I suppose like a lot of people It all depends on what you're kind of access to. That kind of world is what what your kind of access to art is, you know, to not to sound to try and sound too poncey about it but you know a lot of people I went to college with and I've worked with their their kind of upbringing was that they were taken to the theater and they had that access to what they consider gray culture well we're Essex boys cultures what you get when you're younger? You know we're not we're not

Unknown:

you know, we kind of mine it is

Richard:

you know, we sort of I don't know I mean, you guys probably found the same thing I found myself gravitating towards film very early age but massively so I mean, I think I unlike a lot of things in my life I became pretty obsessed with it you know, I kind of I was chasing up back catalogs of actors and directors I enjoyed it all started very much so was that

Trev:

because we were so into film so you got into

Richard:

Yeah, yeah, I kind of it kind of it very much so the big key one for me was the moment that I realized that and so low an Indiana Jones was the same guy. Well, that sounds like a joke. thing to say but look at it. Is this a war for me? If you've got to have a lie down now you've got to have a lie down yeah. Now I very much Star Wars was was was usually and then a few years later on. The Raiders and because we had all the sequels and stuff like that, and I started gaming, I bought Harrison Ford was amazing. You know, and that grew to an appreciation of what actors can do you know, and like a lot of people I had my favorites. De Niro's massive for me growing up, I just, I just loved his work very early.

Trev:

They'll be showing in Richard De Niro,

Richard:

can you remember? thing my first first dinero film? Wow, now we're going back to I think it probably was, I've got a suspicion it was raging bull, which I would have seen very young. younger than younger than, you know, I should have been watching it. But But yeah, I think I think it probably was, but and it was also that led me to that kind of realization that it's not just there's not just an actor, because I became a fan of Scorsese for that. And that led. Yeah, you suddenly realize that there's a whole team of people that make these these films don't just happen. You know, these, these actors don't just get these roles, and they turn up and they do it. That's a wonderful thing. But But I did, I kind of, you know, I sort of had an interest in how the thing gets made your note. So that kind of led me to, you know, looking at performance. And I was, I think what it was we didn't have access to the to the to the theater, and it didn't really hold any interest for me. But what I was watching in film and TV that fascinated me that really did I was really drawn to that. Do you become your family? No, no, I, I no one I'd never acted. actually tell you the story of how I became an actor. Would we be here all night? It's a very, very long story. So I'm going to give you the sort of truncated York notes version of it. Yeah. Basically, at that early age, I did nothing about it. I did nothing at all. I went straight from school and got a job in a bank at 16 years old. Fast forward 12 years, and I'm still working in the bank and you know, trundling along nice little social life meeting, you know, good fun people and all that having the odd holiday and things like that. But over the course of, I suppose about 18 months, I had a few kind of changes of perspective, because I was in a relationship and that ended and then I lost two people that were very close to me. And whilst I was working in the bank, and I'd say trundling along and you kind of find this is between, say, 25 and 28 years old, had a couple of friends. Oh, yeah, very late, very late, really. So by some people's. I'll tell you a little story on that. Actually, there's there was as I did come to LA I ended up going to drama college at 28 years old. And one of the first things I learned was that the head of acting had already said that you can't teach anyone to act who's over the age of 21 and yeah, it's staggering to hear that because I'm at the time I was I was upset by it I was sort of thinking well what's he doing? Am I too thick? Am I no longer What is it you know, and but I kind of worked out but you know, you do I mean, there are there are actors who can come to it very late in life, you know, and I did and I also thought that my my main kind of tool as an actor, my main sort of Arsenal, you know, the sort of piece of weaponry in my arsenal was was my life experience. You know, that I knew.

Trev:

We will show you we will bleep Arsenal out by the way because you know, I'm not a big fan. So there will be bald.

Wayne:

slipped out, obviously, and you're lucky you can follow your your passion and your dreams. Yeah, to earn a living from doing something you love, which is not something Trevor and myself can probably attest to.

Richard:

That's great. I mean, that's a very interesting thing to say. There. That about earning a living doing it because that's where the problems come into paradise. You know, you're really, you stepped, I stepped out of college three, three or four years later, as I say, I graduated, and I went straight into acting jobs. But how often the way I'd never known an industry like it for this. Everyone wants you to work for free. Yeah, cool. Everyone wants you to work for free. So you have to you have to do something else. You have to have some other money from somewhere you need to

Wayne:

show Richard, isn't it? Obviously, if you have to do that with free, you're doing it for free, then that's what you do, isn't it? Yeah.

Richard:

You I mean, if, I mean, the first two jobs I had were theater jobs. It was actually a couple of years before I got anything on film, really. And that was they were just adverts and I did a I did a crime watch. Stuff like that.

Wayne:

times as well. Richard Spencer

Richard:

did a prime watch. I committed a crime. That's why

Trev:

when you were on crime, what did you get paid for it? Yeah, I

Wayne:

had to do danger. I was climbing up windows into people's bedrooms be all sorts of stuff, you know, and I think I got paid for it. But it was indirectly but yeah. On to question two, I think.

Unknown:

Yeah.

Trev:

Well, jumping into the future a bit from what you've just told us, Richard, what, what do you think is the best part you've ever played?

Unknown:

Oh, yeah, he was really young. I

Trev:

suppose I was good. I was gonna say the most demanding maybe, or something that you would he thought, This is what I'm doing it for you. And it's funny, because there's

Richard:

that, I suppose really what it boils down to and as I say, if you go back to my reasons for wanting to pursue acting, it's to have to have memories to have things that I did that, you know, that I will remember for the rest of my life. I mean, I did two national tours of shows that weren't big parts for me. But the fact that I was touring Britain and getting into all these lovely it was it was terrific. And I was working with, I was working with big name actors at the time, you know, and it was, it was it was good. It was really, you really felt like you, you were part of the industry. And I think it's important to

Trev:

not use Monday kind of thing.

Richard:

I've been, I suppose my my outlook to it has always been I, I never wanted to be the big Hollywood star actor I didn't want to be, I wanted to be a good jobbing actor, constantly work, when you're you're kind of Outlook changes once you leave drama school because you leave drama school and you are 1000s of pounds in debt. And each are really tough, really tough. And even just getting an agent is tough, you know, and it takes a lot of dedication, but more importantly than a lot of luck. So when you're kind of, you know, you throw yourself into it. And if you think I'll take everything that comes along, but it's not, it's not realistic to do that. So you end up taking the smaller jobs. Now, as I say, these these two tours that I got, I can remember people saying to me, this is it for you. This is this is the start. This is how it's the first tour, I got people about my age and my friends, were all saying you're on the way up now. And I said, Well, we don't know that. Let's see. But the nice thing about it, like withdrawal of college is while you're doing these tours, all you're doing is acting. You're just traveling around the country, and you're acting and it's and it's great and it's good fun, and it's what you want to do. But it's also hard work eight shows a week from venue to venue is not easy. It takes a lot out of you.

Trev:

You're good. So you're putting your heart and soul into it, aren't you as well be some of you are not

Richard:

Yeah, yeah, I think you have to, as I say that's, you know, I say dedication, like it's, you know, the, this is you know, you must be dedicated, you know, what I mean is you have to be willing to say, okay, right now I'm waiting tables in a restaurant, but when that acting job comes along, I won't be and that's that's the payoff. You know, that is the payoff. In terms of what was the question again? What is it the best actor? Yeah, so the best probably the best part I played and again, this this, you know, I don't want it It sounds like everything. I'm saying resorts back to money. But when you do it for 25 years, which is half my life, we really there's a fine line, there's a fine line and you really have to weigh up. Can you take the job for no money? Can you can you do that? Can you do the profit share? Or can we do that because if you do, are you going to have your rent Are you going to be able to buy Food. Yeah, you know, if you've got a family, you know, these sort of things. Fortunately, I never had a family. But you know, I mean, I didn't I only did myself to worry about sorry,

Wayne:

Richard did did you have to take and take on other work to basically earn a living? Did you have to work? Which I know a lot of actors have to basically?

Richard:

Yeah, I very much. I mean, I would say. I mean, I was very, very again, this is even this was lucky I, I went, I'm a bit sort of old fashioned. And this is again, this is 20 years ago when you could do this. And I went with my, my paper, CVS, and I went round all of London's, but in particular, the West End, and I handed out my savings to theaters to cinnabar as the shops everywhere. And I've got a couple of interviews, I ended up working in the West End, first as an usher. And eventually I became a theater fireman. But I did I've done that for the last 20 years. And from you know, there's been acting jobs in between. Still working in ground industry, which

Wayne:

is great isn't exactly yeah, yeah. That's a bit like the Hollywood whiter thing in it. Yeah.

Richard:

Very much. You have to burn Well, I can remember doing the show. A good few years back now must be 15 years back now. And it was what they call it was a little lunchtime piece of theater that people could go and see from the offices that were on the small theater, they could go and see it in their lunchtime, and their lunch breaks. And while I was on it, I was I was working with an actor. And he said if he seen this, and he showed me this article that they put in the stage where equity had done, actually, the actor's Union had done a bit of research into how much the average actor will be working and how much they'll be earning and things like that. They basically for the average year, and it turned out that the average actor in London works for two weeks of every year as an actor. He's incredible. It is it you can't keep that you can't do 50 weeks a year with rich parents. Yeah. Oh, you won the lottery. It's not realistic. You have to do something. Yeah.

Trev:

So you when you were talking about that was the bet. Would you say that it's your sort of the most fun part you've ever had

Richard:

acted on that or was that that was great, because it was a big ensemble cast out a few famous names in there. And I had a lot, a lot of fun with it. But But again, the real, I'd say that the role I had, that was probably the most satisfying was a South End writer, a friend of mine had written a play. He's written several, we've had a few plays in the West End. And he wrote one set in South End, set in a phone store in a mobile phone store in South End. And he'd written the path for me. And, and it was lovely. It was great possible when I read the script, I just turned to one side and said, it's a fantastic partner, but I don't want to pay this guy. I want to play this guy, because that's the challenge. That's the, you know, that's, this is a guy I know. And I feel like I can played him. And he said, Well, I really want you to play the guy that I wrote. And I said, Can we can i audition for both? So I met the director, and I auditioned for both parts. And the guy that I wanted to play was Simon. And as I left, the director, turned to his ad and said, that's my assignment. So that was great. It was really taught, right? Yeah, it was it was just, it just very, very encouraging. And you felt, I felt, okay, this is something that can have a go. And it was a great part. For me, I got some lovely responses in the reviews and things like that. That's really nice statement. It didn't do very well, we didn't end up extending or anything like that. And it was, it was another profit share job. And I'd had to leave my job to do it. And I'd say, to do that role, which I will say was probably the most satisfying role I've ever done. It cost me about two grand to do it.

Wayne:

There is right there the truth of 90% of people. Yeah,

Richard:

you can't go into this industry with your eyes closed. You really you really have to know what you're letting yourself in for because it's a big, it's a beast. And I would actually say I think it's, I think a lot of ways it's getting, it's getting worse for that, you know, it is getting worse for that it is becoming I think, you know, I personally I've spent the last four or five years thinking is this. I'm like, Am I coming out of the industry now? Why Am I late especially now with with COVID of course, and everything that's happened there. It does make you wonder what kind of an industry we're going to go by.

Trev:

And I dream to become an actor. Do you just completely? Yeah,

Unknown:

absolutely. Completely down. Starfire Richard for now.

Richard:

I know, let me just let me just, I will, because it's kind of if there's two answers to the question there was also another role which this might convince people otherwise this might convince them living is worth doing. And this was something I don't know why I went for this part, but I don't think I've seen my flatmate convince me yesterday, my flatmate convinced me and I went to audition for a part where I had to sing. I don't like to sing. I can sing, but I don't enjoy. I knew I was gonna have to sing in the part and I was gonna go What am I doing? And I went along, I knew it would be fun, and I knew I could have some fun with it. And I got the part and I again did it for about a month over over one Christmas. It was an adult, anti panto

Unknown:

time and then I was gonna

Richard:

say that there's a whole

Wayne:

sorry, Richard.

Richard:

But again, I got to play a character called Barbara ugly one of the sisters and I played it as this drag up northern comic, you know, really heavy mine cabin. And it was, you know, she was very much like this all the time. You know?

Trev:

What do I think that Jim Davis is involved in this somewhere

Wayne:

from coronation, Veera check out

Richard:

the whole that's the whole kind of legit side of working with the show is gonna run around. But But again, that was that was just immense fun. Because I was working with a bunch of people in an ensemble, everyone was having fun with it. It was, it was brings theater as well. So technically, things will go wrong, and you just have to roll with it. roll with it, just

Unknown:

roll with relevant. Let's

Richard:

see where we end up with

Wayne:

now, but that's fine. Because you've given a perspective of it's not all doom and gloom, which, you know, I think people need to know is hard work out there, you're gonna have to take other jobs. You know, we don't just jump into being an idealist, you know, never be so very few and far between. It's not becoming a professional footballer, and playing pub team, isn't it? You might not want to answer this one, Richard. But it would be unfair to ask really, but it's Trevor's question not mine. But if you want to know our system, not so nice as the, you know, the sort of famous people you've met through the years, okay, well,

Richard:

I'm gonna I'm gonna start with if I if I may, a couple of the nicest. Because I know, I know, you guys like me, and we discussed it. Huge Star Wars fans. And I, I, you know, across across the news, I've met a couple of people from Star Wars. But one of the one of the nicest things that happened to me was, I was working at the theater, and we have a show in with with a guy that turned up the stage door once and I'd never met him. I've never met him. He was in the show. And he turned up and I was very excited to meet him because I was thinking this is this is great. This is such a cool guy to me. And he walked up to stage door while I'm standing with a friend, who's also a huge Star Wars fan. And he just walked up and he said, Oh, now this guy I know. I'm pointed. And I was like, you absolutely don't you really, really, we've never met I promise you. I said no, no, I definitely know you like definitely no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I got chatting to him. And it was Bill Hawkins who played porkins in and it worked. He was the nicest, nicest guy he was just lovely, adorable. Yeah. So friendly. And the sad thing is obviously he did die a few a few years later, when when when we got chatting, it was when we got chatting he said to me, he said to me, he said when we when we get out for a drink, we started talking to him about Star Wars and Raiders and everything. When we get out. He said I'll tell you the story of how I got the job and writers you're like that and I never heard the story. never

Wayne:

hear that story.

Richard:

He was he was adorable. He was a really nice guy

Trev:

knows the worst Richard

Unknown:

right. Okay,

Wayne:

well they just want to work with you just wants to get

Richard:

there. There have been some, this is another thing you will going into the acting industry you have to again, you have to have your eyes open and you will meet some absolute horror shows. You really will you will meet some people who are who are just using how First off, how do you find a door to get out the house in the morning? You're that stupid, I don't understand. But there's also people that are just so arrogant, you know, so horribly. I'm all for a bit. My big failing as an actor as a human being is a lack of confidence. I never really I've got horrible, horrible imposter syndrome terrible. Really bad. You know, I'm, especially in a working class working class guy from SC stepping on the stage of Western theater. What are you doing?

Wayne:

You know, you're doing sex boys, Richard, that's what you're doing.

Richard:

And I worked with this guy, and we did this, this show. But I'm not gonna get the nice thing is if I gave you the name, you wouldn't know him. So that's, that's, for me. That's horribly. He's, we've just from from day one was I sensed that he didn't like me and I, but I'm the kind of guy I sort of make effort with people. I think, you know, it's much better, especially if you're working with people, it's much better to try and get on with them. To be, you know, than to be Nick about Excuse My French.

Wayne:

That's okay. You can get away with the kiddie section which

Richard:

I could have I could have been.

Wayne:

Exactly. Exactly. And most importantly, Richard, because you're not going to give us at night because obviously we no one will know. But trashcan avoid him in the acting circles that

Richard:

I honestly couldn't. I will say the reason the reason it came to a head, I will say this, it came to a head in a moment in we were in a dressing rooms for the first time and leaving me as I say, I'm kind of a communal team player. I like to keep things nice and friendly. And I said to the whole room, I said, I said, Look, guys, just just silly. No, you know, we're all in the dressing room for the duration of the show. Does anyone have any things I you know, like to avoid? You know, no smelly food? No, you know, don't bring in a desk backstage without checking with us first, that sort of thing. When you're not, I wouldn't say either, Richard.

Unknown:

Yeah.

Richard:

At the risk of sounding like I'm blowing my own trumpet, I have had many technical people who do have a real disdain for most actors, say to me in the past, many, many times or many, many shows have said to me, you're the most unnaturally actor I've ever met. And

Wayne:

your entourage

Richard:

thank much guys like me. But But this this guy, he just didn't give anyone else a chance to speak. He just hates now. And I know there are a few people out there who I've told this story too. And when they do, they still got they will laugh because this has become a catch phrase. He said, I demand respect. Me. Rule like just it went quiet. Everyone went? Yeah. Well.

Trev:

We want to do Shea for the top of his voice of absolute Idaho money.

Richard:

Oh, yeah. Yes, pretty much. Pretty much.

Trev:

Let's not, let's not beat around the bush.

Unknown:

Yes,

Richard:

I had to I had to explain to him. I said, I do you not understand that purely by asking that question I'm showing. That's the first thing. And secondly, I think as you go through life, good luck demanding respect from people. You have to you have to work on it like that, you know, and it was like, say, you're not you're not gonna want to sleep with everyone you work with. I hear

Wayne:

you speak for yourself. I work in a store full of men. I love it.

Unknown:

You love it. Yeah,

Wayne:

sorry. I just don't you boys. You'd be worried today. We'd be asleep next time I walk in that room. Onto the next one is to Richard basically the most important part of all of this to anyone who's listening out there has aspirations to be an actor. What What advice would you give to someone starting out who has patients to be an actor? It could be something. I mean, it could be somebody our age, you know, somebody wants to start acting. What would you say? Yeah,

Richard:

yeah, I my it's my advice. And I think this I've told this to many people throughout my years of doing it I've always said the same thing. If you think you've got it in you go for it. Because it's so much better than hiding your light under a bushel is so much better than keeping that flame. Yeah, you've got to feed that flame you've got you can't try and extinguish it before it's either chocolate the burn. Give it a go,

Wayne:

would you say Richard it you know, somebody is interested in maybe our age. You know, if you've got a passion for acting, he's not necessarily going to pay your bills, but go and join an amateur dramatics society and enjoy the process. Yeah,

Richard:

yeah, absolutely. That is, I've actually done a lot of work. Since since graduating and then since been in the industry, I've done quite a lot of work. And it was it was knock on work, there would always be a film after film after a film with the again, South End college. I'm not sponsored by South drive.

Trev:

When you say that for someone of all ages, would you would you say that like Jordan, a casting thing for exes would help?

Richard:

Is that a good thing? Yeah. Yeah, definitely. I tell you what it would do this. This is why I was saying about the South in college things because you might get you might get a part in a small film where you actually actually connect, if you if you go into being an extra or background officers, I like to be called. If you do something like that, yeah. There's a lot of waiting around. There's a lot of standing on set. You're the you're the first people on set, you're the last people off the last ones to get said, there's there's not always a lot of respect

Unknown:

for you. You just said that.

Richard:

You can't You can't there is there is anything for free, which is a huge thing. There's,

Wayne:

you're gonna get loads of offers now, Richard? Yeah, loads of free.

Richard:

Yeah, exactly. But you can, what you can do with that is you can find your way in, let's say there might be someone who's got a, you know, a nice, decent little roll, it could be like a couple of lines that could give you some of the work with that will give you an idea. If bill, you know, you would he would test you. That's the important thing. I think maybe to throw yourself into it and test yourself. There's, there's absolutely I did say, I mean, a lot of people have gone through the extra route. A few friends of mine have ended up being there. Again, I think going back to the Star Wars movies, through being extras, you know, and it can happen. I would, I would personally, if you really want to test yourself, I would try and find I try and find a way into doing student films, or short productions of plays, you know, one or two nights in a place and test yourself like that, because you'll find out quick enough if you've got it, you know, and it's not, there's very little to do. You know, people always talk about talented actors, but I really believe really, truly believe that. Most actors are talented to a to an extent, most of them can do certain things. But But what it is you having that opportunity being given that that lucky moment says this is the perfect role for you go off and do it, you know. So yeah,

Wayne:

I noticed amongst all that, Richard, that you mentioned the word test quite a few times. And just because

Richard:

I hope I'd say that somebody out there get something from it. And it's not just the boring things. No, no, and namedropping terrible. People who've been for God's sakes.

Wayne:

Damn bill Wilkins. Before you go, Richard, because I can tell that you're thinking, What's he gonna do now? It's a little

Unknown:

frightening. Yeah.

Wayne:

He said, we obviously have quite a popular part of the show that we do is the test drive segment where I put drive under the spotlight every week. So now we're taking it to test the guest. We're gonna let Trev join you on this little journey. You can be part of it. Yes. Yes. Don't worry, you're not left out. Whether your name's not in the in the in the in the jingle anymore. I'm from fortunately driven. And then here is

Unknown:

a test, test. test against that idea.

Richard:

I love that. I gotta say, Trev, I'm coming for your job, right?

Wayne:

I'm coming. I had to basically I had to basically put this together a very short notice. And to be honest, even though we've been speaking during this, this podcast, I managed to answer all the questions correctly, even without concentrating on it. So I don't think this is going to be much of a challenge to be honest. Okay, let's

Trev:

see. If we don't if these don't go well. Would we do that our complete pair of dumbbells? Yeah. So that's why

Wayne:

that's why I asked the questions.

Richard:

thrown in the beaten? Clearly. That's

Wayne:

the idea. There's no editing here.

Unknown:

Yeah, exactly.

Wayne:

So this is a Harrison Ford. You've mentioned Harrison Ford in in the podcast Richard so obviously so I might switch it between you on the answers. So to I think I'll go Richard the first one and say this isn't isn't too challenging Richard I shouldn't say that. Really? Because if you don't know it, then it's gonna. Sorry. I'm not gonna be the next Bruce falsos. Who was the actress that fell in love with in the movie witness. Do you want the multiple choices? Richard?

Unknown:

Yeah.

Wayne:

Demi Moore. Kelly McGillis, Jodie Foster, or Kelly Clarkson.

Unknown:

If he doesn't get a chance to Oh, yes,

Wayne:

you get. Okay. Keep with a candy bar. Really?

Richard:

I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. Oh, yeah,

Unknown:

yeah,

Wayne:

you get famous round of applause. Oh.

Richard:

That's the highlight.

Trev:

I'm the only one has ever had that and they take it in for me. I know. I know.

Wayne:

Trevor's gonna get this this is really annoys me because I've been asking him what was Garry Kasparov middle name and just thrown a curveball and but we've done it in the Kabbalah before we Yeah, so Okay, I'm going to get used to just a gimme really in Air Force One. Who was the terrorist and you don't even want the answers there. You

Unknown:

give me a couple of seconds to think

Wayne:

you haven't got a couple of seconds isn't? It was indeed Gary. Oh,

Richard:

I'm impressed on refresh. Just just to throw this out there again. Gary. I went to the same drama colleges and just saying details back to

Wayne:

Okay, here we go. Harrison thought took over the role of this is the one I couldn't remember earlier for is jack dancy jack Ryan. I didn't know that. Honestly, from from Witch Hunt for Red October actor. I will give you the multiple choice because he's a few.

Richard:

I think I don't need it. Excellent.

Unknown:

Why? Look at that. This

Wayne:

is a quiz to run.

Richard:

This is a horrible moment. They were awful. He wasn't him but you know

Wayne:

the flashiness of not needing

Unknown:

Yes, yeah. Yeah. as well.

Richard:

I know you would no doubt no doubt.

Wayne:

You'll know this anyway. And Trevor know this, but I say this is a bit tough as baby. Which movie was Harrison Ford in before Star Wars. Do you want the answer's

Trev:

no. Go and then. Richard knows you can even use breath. American Graffiti.

Wayne:

Just really want to do this to you trip.

Trev:

He will happen again. Yeah, it will happen again.

Wayne:

Because he's called test the guest really in trips. Getting too excited. Last one. This is a last question to Richard.

Richard:

I'm gonna throw it so I get that sound.

Wayne:

If you say something funny, which is you get a rim shot, which can be taken any way you like, you know, I mean.

Unknown:

I've never got a rim shot. No

Richard:

one told me about that this

Wayne:

podcast has gone downhill rapidly. Question five. And the final question. How did Harrison Ford get the role in Star Wars? I'll give you the answers. Richard, you don't need them. This one do?

Richard:

I think I know. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

Wayne:

it's kind of I'm not being funny. I mean,

Unknown:

comienza Spence, he knows it. It could. I

Wayne:

college friends of George Lucas. They met George Lucas on American Graffiti. See Mark Hamill when a calf? George Lucas on Johnny Carson.

Richard:

It's the can we answer it and then ask you guys a question because it's a follow up question. It was the it was the American Graffiti.

Unknown:

Yeah. Mark Hamill would have added a cat.

Wayne:

hoodie No, no. What do you

Richard:

I'm trying to say are trying to think of a false pun, but I can't think of one I'm sorry. There's nothing going. It's terrible. I've I've let you down.

Wayne:

So we did. You don't Richard, you do your

Richard:

follow up the follow up question. This is I can't think of anything so I'm going to go. This is please Kwame. How's that sound?

Wayne:

A lot worse. Yeah.

Richard:

What actor? Did Harrison Ford replace? As hands on like?

Unknown:

Oh, is Tom Selleck was it?

Richard:

No, no, no. No. Oh my god, I'm out Christie. I'm so delighted that apparently, George Lucas originally Clarke cast Glynn Turman to play. And then Harrison Ford, he met him and Tracy's mind.

Wayne:

It's a whole different movie. So that's for us.

Unknown:

Why do you know who Clinton minis? What are you doing?

Wayne:

This isn't an elaboration on questions. It's not to say do you know Greek sermons? blumen. Favorite song? Yeah,

Unknown:

I mean, we could be

Wayne:

right there. No, I don't either. Then you okay. Yeah, that's what I mean. But it would have been a whole different movie, that's for sure. But

Unknown:

it would. But yeah,

Wayne:

I think we better put a disclaimer in of today's guests future coming because Richard put a curveball in there that They mustn't ask the guests questions, especially when we don't have the answer. I think this is the first one is going to need editing, I think. Clever editing.

Unknown:

Yeah, I know that.

Richard:

If I send you a picture of Glenn firm, and you go Oh,

Wayne:

he's like treat Williams. But yeah, that's great. That's so basic. That's the end of that segment interview. Richard, we really appreciate your time coming on here today. It's been great.

Richard:

It's been an absolute blast. Thanks very much.

Wayne:

We hope you enjoyed that interview. I really enjoyed it. I know Trev really enjoyed it. But was it made you think about becoming an A Lister trip?

Trev:

It's really opened my eyes to how hard somebody Richard position has to work to do what he does. To be on a seats totally blown my ideas of stardom right out of the water. This is showing these Yeah, these ideas of having my hands in the old cement on Hollywood Boulevard and the star on the pavement. I can't see my name being on that, to be honest, because I'm a lazy sod. And I don't want to work that hard for it. But he says he's not interested in the casting couch. Are you interested in that he

Wayne:

will not put it the easy way.

Trev:

To be honest, if anybody wants to hire why denies extras for free on the day, and basically, we could stand now just look pretty vain out there with that, but just don't ask me to work in his lifetime. So

Wayne:

thank you, Richard, for putting us off our dreams of becoming actors. But you know, at least the truth is out there. I mean, this is all back. So as we realize this, we realize now I mean, Trevor and I just quick story before we end today, put our names down. I think it was early crowdfunding project in the late 90s that we got, I don't know where it come from a movie magazine or something but a trip us to get. And it was a movie, whatever it was it come through and said, do you want to be in a British production with Sean Pertwee, and it was called legionnaires. So it's important that disease is about some sort of science fiction.

Unknown:

That would be well,

Wayne:

I can't find it anywhere. But you basically pay 200 pounds, and you could be an extra in this movie. I'm Trevor Knight will put like he were there. You know, but it looks like we're the only two I don't think 400 quid would have really gone a long way in the production. So I think they cancelled the project. I

Unknown:

think that was I think the funding weren't there.

Wayne:

But I'm still we're still you know, available for that. We put a name down on a company called Mad Dog 2020 essence drink, isn't it Mad Dog 2020. That's it. That's it. I think that's a drink from the 90s but

Trev:

not really green and syrupy.

Wayne:

But you know that these kinds of apps and that you can use now if you've got any relevant skills, or treads got a beard, you know, when they want a person with a beard, they'll feel that way. He's grown that we've spoke about it. But you know, if you, you could always join one of these casting places put a picture on there, put your skill, especially if you've got skills. Well, I noticed the other day I got in the bowels den, it said you've been shortlisted for one of the gigs that basically on this act as an extra because you can drive now for our broader scale is that about 95% of people can drive

Trev:

outline for two I got one was could you act like a surgeon? skills and I was like of course I have What do you take?

Wayne:

out Trevor Scissorhands

Trev:

habits like binders like Doctor Strange? And the other one was can you juggle? Okay, well, Dustin Hoffman

Wayne:

jogged me in a movie is that enough qualification, but

Trev:

by going back at it, if anybody has had an experience as an extra, or as an experience of working for a casting company, by all means, leave us a message on the blue microphone button. Yeah,

Wayne:

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Rich Aloi

Actor (occasionally...)

Rich has just passed the milestone which means he's been acting for half of his life (which, of course, would beg the question 'why isn't he better at it?!') If you're looking for the next Peck/Newman/McQueen/Stallone/Pitt/Clooney, well then, move along, buddy - nothing to see here. But, should you need a 'dodgy-looking-neighbour-with-suspiciously-newly-laid-patio', or 'Dennis-from-Accounts-who-would-rather-nobody-ever-found-out-about-that-other-harddrive' type - call off the search! You may just have found your man. (Basically, he does a decent line in 'scumbags').