Feb. 7, 2021

Bearded Villains - Interview With A Villain

After last week’s episode all about beards and their history with tips from Trev on how to grow a stonker of a beard, we shift the focus onto what some guys with suitable beards get up to in the various beard clubs around the world.


Date: 10th January 2021

Name of show: A Midlife Less Ordinary

Episode title and number: Se1Ep5 – Interview With A Villain

Brief summary of show:

After last week’s episode all about beards and their history with tips from Trev on how to grow a stonker of a beard, we shift the focus onto what some guys with suitable beards get up to in the various beard clubs around the world.

The title “Interview With A Villain” relates to the world’s biggest beard club “The Bearded Villains” of which Trev is a member and proud co-captain. Here Trev busts some of the myths surrounding beard clubs and all the good work they do for charity. Trev touches on the bond and brotherhood that the members feel for each other and the social life they enjoy whilst being members. 

So if you took Trev’s advice in the last episode and have started on your journey to a showcase beard, let Trev inform you on how to expand your social life and join a beard club.

Bullet points of key topics & time stamps:

·       Trev: 3:53 

Again, all of a sudden, in the last four or five years, beards have become very fashionable. And then you've got TV shows on Sons of Anarchy that have really kind of made that kind of lifestyle. Kind of very household people, you know, for something that was quite underground. It does kind of is a lot more invoke now.

 

·       Trevor Deeley: 23:40 

We have a quite a few guys that have been in the services that have joined up. And as I as I said before, earlier on in this conversation, there's a lot of different people in different walks of life. There's policeman, there's army guys, there's security guys, every walk of life ever, which is good, because it gives, you know, because obviously, we raised money that has to be looked after.

 

·       Trevor Deeley: 25:40 

·       age doesn't really come into it. per se, I'm really good friends with all the guys and yeah, I'm not even looked at. And again, you get that kind of older uncle figure. 

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Show Links:

·       The Bearded Villains https://www.beardedvillains.com/

·       The British Beard Club https://thebritishbeardclub.org/

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Transcript

intro:

You're listening to a mid life less ordinary, the weekly podcast giving you the lowdown on becoming a cool older dude. The good times are not afraid of memory. It's time to start loving them again. And here are your hosts, Wayne and Travis.

Wayne:

Yeah, hello, everyone. Welcome to this episode. And I'm Wayne and this is Trev. I'm back and I'm good. And today we're doing an interview with a villain. And it's all about beard clubs. Not a real villain just know. He's a rascal. he's a he's not a he's not a villain at all. But the

Trev:

Aston Villa support was either Oh, controversial. Yeah. But kinda my cousins and uncles are Aston Villa supporters. So we know Oh, yeah. Because you're from Birmingham. Oh, no, that's all because of my roots. I wasn't gonna say anything.

Wayne:

You know, I was gonna say, I know what you're gonna say. But after last week's grooming episode, we did say that obviously, having a beard can lead to a social life a bigger, bigger, fuller social life and tribes a good example of that and a big social life to be honest. So what what what is a beard club trip?

Trev:

Basically, exactly what it what it is what it says. It's just basically a group of guys that have got together who have got beards that are just trying to do good in the world. Really. There's loads of about, I'm a member of the world's biggest ones. Which is why you mentioned villains. The Bearded Villains.

Wayne:

What do you know about bearded villains? I know, you know, a little bit of it for me. But you know what, what? What's your take on it? I mean, obviously, I went I've been to I've gone with you when you've gone to some of the some of the meats and I've seen the kind of brotherhood that you have. So I look at it like because obviously I'm intimate but I look at it like a like I know it sounds a bit basic better like a hells Angel without motorbikes by expect a brotherhood in that car. Yeah. Why do you actually try to kind of all that it's got a real

Trev:

bike club. Look about it. We do try a distance guy. No. Yes. Don't want to offend any of the, you know, the Hells Angels. Another cool. Yeah, exactly. We don't. So that's that's a you know, one of the things he's like with the cuts and the sort of patches and stuff. We don't really encourage a lot of the kind of directly copying bike clubs and Hells Angels, because he's a bit disrespectful, I think, of course. Yeah. But the Yeah, the same kind of vibe in the sense of chapters was the community. Yeah, yes. Yeah. Is the chapters. Yeah, there's a ranking. You know, when I say ranking, it's not like, like the army. But there's got to be some kind of structure in it. Just for the organization. Yes, that's the thing. So you're a member of the Bearded Villains, which is the one I know that you enjoy. And you're, you're actively involved, and also a member of the British beard Club, which is a lot more of a general beard club. Again, like there is meats and there's a social side of it. That is not in my opinion, it's not as trying to think of the right word here as complex if that makes Yes, it's a lot more kind of looser.

Trevor Deeley:

But yeah, you know, to pick the guys I've met him there are a lot of the villains is the only club you can actually be if you are a beaded villain as well. You can't. villains you can't be in another big club. There's various other ones are the Big Bad Boys, the Viking beard club. You can't be a member of all of them.

Wayne:

There's a big kudos involved, isn't there? We've been a member of the villains, isn't it? From what I can see. Yeah, yeah, there is Yeah.

Trev:

Again, all of a sudden, in the last four or five years, beards have become very fashionable. And then you've got TV shows on Sons of Anarchy that have really kind of made that kind of lifestyle. Kind of very household people, you know, for something that was quite underground. It does kind of is a lot more invoke now. So there's a template of that a lot of people obviously think he's called, which again, is you know, I'm a fan of Sons of Anarchy. And I'm a bit controversial because he is just like, men soap opera. A bit of a guilty pleasure for me because, but a lot of guys and girls love it, Richie, and I can see any is really I don't really do enjoy, or have enjoyed it. But yeah, it's not it's not Shakespeare. No, no. You want to go if he was good, you know, not everything has to be so it doesn't matter as long as entertaining. Yeah, he's got some really good music in it as well. Yeah, I think the only thing I thought when I first watched Sons of Anarchy was I just didn't think they look like we were bikers, but they grew into it. We wouldn't want to be sitting with you spiced rum watching Hamlet really would you on a Saturday.

Wayne:

I'm sorry. I wasn't saying he was uncultured or anything but totally the opposite. totally the opposite.

Trevor Deeley:

It's been half his Christmas tea. Okay, Van Damme.

Wayne:

And Scott Adkins Don't forget Scott. It's about time he grew a beard actually only for boys but he's been long enough to get into VLANs now for email,

Trevor Deeley:

that's the good guy you know, and I know from our gym days to come up with a really good idea because the one of the actual things about being a bat villains is your beard has to be at least 40 mil long, and get long goatees don't count it has to be a full beard.

Wayne:

Is there an actual measurement so 40 mil which Sorry? Excuse me, is that the length is the length of

Trev:

this and most chapters have got like kind of cards they give out when they want to kind of recruiting you guys I do that a lot. When I started in 2017, with the Essex guys, the Essex chapter which I'm a co captain of, well, I've got Jimmy who's very good Captain I've got really good team around me Jimmy's our captain Where's he's our scout. We got on really well. The rest of the guy but when I joined there was only 10 of us. We had another Guy Martin from South End join together he's and that shows you what kind of had different people are in in the big villains and diversities. Yeah, yes, I'm, I'm a shop manager. And Martin, the guy joined with the same day I met him at the train station before we went to our first meet he he's an armed response guy. Yeah, the Metropolitan Police in London. He's also six foot seven. Don't miss me and I think it's obvious head when the train boarded. Mine again that is that's one good thing about like a beard club or the Bearded Villains is you get to meet lots of different people you wouldn't necessarily meet under any other surgery. It was quite still quite It was quite bizarre that meet so my first meet we got there I got on with so I hit it off with mine Really? straightaway on the train. And there was a side there was 11 of us in the Essex guys then. And then a couple of honorary members. Obviously if you move you could still be a member of the you know the town or the area you you read. But a lot of guys relocate and join because obviously we all know each other virtually. you'd become lazy to move to Birmingham. You could become a member of the central England guys you can move. But yeah, we got there and there was like eight nine other guys. I'd never met these guys before. And all we had in common was we had a long longer than 40 mil beard But it was really again, you know, I seem to hit it off with a guy's virtually straight away and yeah, it's gone from there. So he's taken me I've everywhere I've been Amsterdam twice which is massive Beardstadam I've been reading Bara which was edim beard. A lot of the London big meets they have lot in kind of Camden why and that which I'm familiar with. That's where you came up that day. We went to the concert Oh, it looked like great fun to be honest. Yeah, is it's and I know you think a lot of the guys that are your brothers that you've met the brothers the Brotherhood. Yeah. We basically obviously with the sort of the state the world in the moment with COVID you can't we can't make meats and stuff. But just so we keep in contact, day to day and during the week. We use sort of social media Instagram, Facebook, but we use live chat rooms to to discuss staff and have a laugh. Sort of vibes to go and community. You Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly.

Wayne:

So Trev if I if I saw if I wanted to join the villains and I looked I got my tape measure out. I've got a 40 mil beard. One point not only 1.9 to be exact, as instead of this kind of George Michael 1984 stubbled I've got that wouldn't qualify, pat cash Exactly. But how would I how do you how did you get involved? How do I get to

Trev:

if you've got a decent length beard or something

Trevor Deeley:

some a lot myself or wears or Jimmy or another member that's been there for will give you a card asking you to look into the Instagram. You basically have a social media presence. You've got to use Instagram or Facebook via Instagrams, that one. Then you look it up see what you think got the card it gives you the details and again contact that card or give you a contact for the scale and he'll put you through it then you get put into like a new hopeful chat. We Get to know a lot of the other guys that are wanting to join. And then once you've met certain criteria, you've been a few meats and your Instagram, your social media presence is quite good. You get put in the mind rooms, a worldwide worm the European room. The good thing about a lot of the chat rooms is if you've got any interest as well. A lot of the guys in I've got very similar interest is is video game rooms. So you can talk about that. You've got the sort of film rooms, you've got motorbike rooms, cool. They're not everything wherever you're in. So there's probably a villain there's into it as well. This would invite you into a room. It so you

Wayne:

don't hear that right. What did you say? It's basically invite only so you have to have a presence.

Trevor Deeley:

Yeah, you do. If he's actually by a car, the way I did, it was a strange way. I was already using social media and Instagram and I saw the big villains logo. I didn't know anything about I just have a logo look cool. So I posted this logo like yes, every chapter on the central Midlands guys. The sex guys have got sort of a school mascot called Bucky, which one of our members was kind enough. His daughter was kind enough to design for us. We do a lot of merchandise with that kind of thing on discuss that in a minute. Because I've got I've covered the charity work. But yeah, I posted this picture. And the captain then messaged me of some of us have seen it and guy contact him or he saw a comment member and said, like, you know, that's our logo. It's it's sort of trademarked kind of thing. Unless you're in the villains. You're not supposed to post it here. And I was like, oh, okay, I'll take it down. But I had no problem. I just looked cool. Yeah. And he said, Well, I've looked at your profile and like, you know, your beard is is long enough if you're interested in joining. So he invited me into the lion chair and basically I just went from there went to our first me and a little couple of months later and yeah, and that's sort of when we have different kind of meats where some meats are just like a few beers, you know, with your do t shirts and your patches on your jacket and stuff like that. Then you've got a sort of dapper meets we do. I know. I think it was the Danish one of the scattered goodness deviance groups they like because we've got flags and stuff. That's what it is a flag or a black flag which you're allowed to raise when you become a villain. Yeah, basically all our chapters have got our own colored flag but you have to have a certain amount of members which is another rank up in the villains to get one and basically once you've got that Black Flag you know you're you're kind of in Yeah, but you've got my Sorry,

Wayne:

sorry. No, I was just gonna say I remember seeing a video I think it was one of the villains main central meets I don't know if that's Birmingham or something and there was hundreds and hundreds of guys walking through a city center

Trevor Deeley:

Yeah. The Amsterdam ones the biggest one I think the one that you may have seen was the Coventry one or was the Birmingham one what we do is we go to we went to Edinburgh Castle for one they did let us use it to actually round the corner. Something to do with the royal families flag I believe it was but you're going back to the the meets with the flags. I think it was the Danish guys or the one of the Scandinavian chapters went to live historical place where they were and they had a dapper mix it all dressed up you know, black and white look very small, very small. course the flags are black and white and various other darker colors and called a pass of Bye. reported them to the police say that like there was like it looked like a terrorist group. The first thing people think of is when they see a group of guys with big beards they normally think of terrorists think of ISIS. Exactly. And basically the the police came down it made the national news over there. Which was like yeah, which was you know, I say there's no bad

Trev:

but yeah, but yes, I saw the flags are a big thing. We have locked flags shoot. So we go as I said, we went to Edinburgh Castle, they wouldn't let us use it because of the royal families signature flag or something. But yeah, we say it creates that kind of cool vibe when we're all together with our flags and stuff. Yeah,

Wayne:

some sight when you see these guys together. Yeah, exactly. It's a nice way of once you've got the pictures.

Trevor Deeley:

Looking back on it. Yes. Looks. It looks organized.

Unknown:

Yes. No, it

Trevor Deeley:

certainly does. Yeah, one of the biggest things as well with the villains is doing stuff for their local communities and chairs. We try to do a lot we do so homeless runs just now for Christmas. Obviously we couldn't go out, like giving homeless bags out to the homeless guys in our towns. We normally pick different towns or different years. So I basically just got a load of kind of homeless wash bags together. We can flannels, even toothbrushes, socks, blankets, and I think I think we got about 30 of those in a box and delivery to help our local but we raised a lot of money where we came from and merchandise we one of the biggest things a lot of veteran guys are in interior patches they sell on their jackets and stuff. So you know looks like a belonging and cyber those with there's an auction room and some of those go for long mega money in for charity, which is good. Yeah, no, it's great.

Unknown:

charities way of giving back one I think one thing about villains, especially as the biggest beer club in the world is you only get out what you put in. If that makes sense. Yeah, you can you meet lots of great people, you can do a lot through it. Which is one of the reasons I got involved. I mean, obviously it's not a cult it's not Masonic. Well, I suppose people would see as a distance he doesn't like a bike club. It does look a bit but I think it just goes to the image because obviously Yeah, having a big beard. It looks a bit tough. A lot of our A lot of us are covered in tattoos.

Wayne:

So it does giving off that image it's why it's so important to tell people that the charity work that they do, isn't it that

Trev:

exactly yeah, that that's that's the thing as well, you can never judge a book by its cover. You know that some of the nicest guys I've ever met in my lifetime have a Bearded Villains. Yeah. And some famous people trip as well as Oh, yeah, yeah, we've had some famous people back in the you know, in the times.

Trevor Deeley:

Yeah, it's Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. The charity thing for me and our our chaps. Most of our chaps is the biggest thing it's just about giving back

Wayne:

Yes, that's the whole thing it's like you know that the respect of it to organize is that organized on a regional basis then trips or you're doing charity work?

Trevor Deeley:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, basically Yeah, we like to keep obviously we would do it for any kind of charity but we like to sort of keep it because we use an Essex chapter a while you know, so we like to keep it a bit more localized you know, but it's up to up to there Bobby and I've been involved with the villains since 2017. Now is it though it is yeah. 2017 there's obviously various you're hopeful first that you you become your villain which is your your main kind of rank and then you've got like a member you've got a loyal there they all come with it once you've actually done certain things in the club. I was lucky enough to be offered the CO Captain mantle as well. Then you can get a scouts rank as well. Would you if you scout enough people to become a villain when they become a strange when you approach people and obviously people will approach you as well but weird when you sell you got to live random stranger with a card and sale. You know, you got a cool beard fella. Take this. This is like a card about joining the big villains. And they're like, what's that? And he's like, because I think a lot of people will see that all we do is get together and sit there and talk about beard oil.

Trev:

Yeah, obviously you do because you've got a cool beard. There'll be like Oh god, what do you use on that? And yeah, there is a look. I mean,

Wayne:

the world Trainspotting society I'm sure they talk about trains at some point I

Trevor Deeley:

look at the buffers on that. That's the thing to the outside world. I think people would find it a bit strange but what

Wayne:

I've been we've you when you've scouted somebody before when I think we've had quite a few out non alcoholic beverages and you approach somebody and he was over the moon that day. I think we know he's talking to us all night. I don't remember now.

Trev:

I think I think it's about Dan. Yeah, yeah. dans in. Now, yeah, cool

Wayne:

. I mean, that's a couple of years ago. Well got to be two or three years ago.

Trev:

Yeah, that was his Yeah, yeah, Dan's got the most epic beard you'll ever see. So you don't have to have an amazing beard. You know, as long as you've got over the 40 mil and stuff, then that's you know that it it's not like a grooming picky thing, but so that your wives are involved as well. Trevon. Are you allowed to some of them? Yeah, we obviously not. We've grown beards but there's other sections as well. Some of the girls are in the coins. There's the villa nets as well. They come to meet and staff what was the difference between them to the Queen's and basically the Queen's most of the most of the Queens that I the girls that are married or partners have Have a big villain. Yep. And the villain so girls are just sort of like, guys with the culture. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah. Don't get left out, which is good. And now it's again. That's the whole social side of

Wayne:

it's quite inclusive, isn't it? Very much. So. Yeah, yeah. So it's so true. So if somebody is listening, they can't they can't actively approach somebody who's a villain for example, and with a view to join in, could they approach somebody and say, you know, my beards 50 mil? I think it's quite cool. I want to get more I want I want to be social. Im in essex would

Trevor Deeley:

have to be Yeah, course you can. Yeah. Yeah. I think what I was saying is you can't just

Wayne:

either sign up online and just become a nun.

Trevor Deeley:

No, there's got to be a certain amount of commitment. You can't just say, Oh, I'm going to be a big villain and start hash tagging and live by the merge and stuff like that.

Trev:

Obviously, the charity merch anyone can buy that we do. Because obviously, it goes to charity, but some of the rent patches and stuff. You've got to kind of earn I don't know if obviously back in donkey's years ago, there was probably beard clubs. Yeah, that existed because obviously through the eons of time, people have had beards and you know, there probably was a thing but yes, it took the village is the biggest we come along and done it better basically. Yeah. Yeah. Very organized is very kind of Yeah, he's very well run. You know, it's not some sort of flaky kind of get a newsletter every six months and then don't see one for another year.

Wayne:

It's very, I mean, I've seen that I've seen the merchandise as well trev that obviously you anywhere and it's good. It's good to be honest. It can people can anyone buy the merchandise? Well?

Trevor Deeley:

Yeah, you can off the site, the main site and obviously the charity t shirts we do. You could obviously buy them but you don't really see the point in in guys without a beard wearing a bt villains t shirt. No. It doesn't really make sense. I wonder why I'd never get one for Christmas. Yeah, this is Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I just keep your one next year. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, so I don't see the side of that. But the charity stuff and that. Yeah, yeah. Now you could buy that because he's obviously got a good cause. You wouldn't want to stop exactly charity, hybrid cancer charity. Get in, you know, I say I'm just partaking in like a 26 mile, run a marathon in a month thing.

Trev:

And yeah, I, you know, I'd like to, obviously would include that on on the essex bearded villain site. Because again, it's something else. Yeah, that we're doing for the community is a prostate cancer one. But yeah, that's again, it's all about, you find that once you get involved with the charity work through the villains, you tend to kind of gravitate to doing it off your own back as well, if that cause sort of fits your lifestyle, because I've done quite a bit of a run now. And again, that was the next thing. No, it was Yeah, so yeah, yes. You've been around it a little bit with me. So you know what it's about to a certain degree.

Wayne:

I think it looks it looks great. Yeah, it looks if I had a beard. I'd want to be I'd want to be a bearded villain. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we encourage people to, to want to join.

Trevor Deeley:

We have a quite a few guys that have been in the services that have joined up. And as I as I said before, earlier on in this conversation, there's a lot of different people in different walks of life. There's policeman, there's army guys, there's security guys, every walk of life ever, which is good, because it gives, you know, because obviously, we raised money that has to be looked after. And obviously we have to keep an eye on the tax of stuff in there. So you know, you've got people that are no accountants or are accountants that have you know, say, if you've got a skill set, there's always a way of using it in Yeah, in the video villains, if you notice, I use that stat because I do a lot of the merchandise for the sex guys. Which is really cool. Sometimes because obviously, I'm a bit older than some of the guys so my tastes might be a bit different to what it is, but again, we all have a vote on it in the chat rooms and we all kind of get together and yeah, no, there's no kind of the thing is that I said to you before, it's all about getting out what you put in and leaving your ego behind. Yes. Yeah. No. Which is the same about life anyway. Yeah. It's like you leave your ego at the door may and you're enjoy enjoy the

Wayne:

friendship, relationships, you

Trevor Deeley:

make a community of it the Brotherhood. Yeah, yeah, no ego involves doing some good who know.

Wayne:

Exactly. But is there a demographic age trev? Really? No, no not at all.

Trev:

Some of some of the young guys are in their early 20s and even younger than that, I think I don't know who the youngest member of the Essex chapter are is early 20s and lacking I have not the oldest star chapter marker thank me for that he's a year older than I was until Mark joined which was good. Although younger than Mark anyway, mom is in many older ones. like middle aged boys. Yeah, there's a few guys a little bit older than me.

Trevor Deeley:

age doesn't really come into it. per se, I'm really good friends with all the guys and yeah, I'm not even looked at. And again, you get that kind of older uncle figure. If that makes sense. It becomes that when you socialize with guys, there comes that odor that just sort itself out if that makes sense. impossibly keeps me younger knocking about these guys every now and again having a few beers and learning from them. And hopefully they kind of learn from me. in other ways.

Wayne:

You're like the Master Yoda no trophies. Well,

Trevor Deeley:

no, no, no. Well, yeah, I'll tell you that. Yoda. Yoda vs. villains.

Trev:

The wise one, you know, why is one Well, yeah, that's the thing. You know, we got guys from all those age have overstated that now, we should have gotten sort of more nice window or something. We want to bring that we don't want to be anyone from that one, though.

Wayne:

And also, remember, you went to Miami some time ago, did you meet up some guys there you

Trev:

wanted too. But again, like, typical when you go on holiday, I talked to a lot of them. I spoke to a lot of Miami guys before I went and they seem quite happy with it. But like anything when you go and you think you're on a holiday. So you've got all the time in the world here. But you kind of forget that some of the work. They're working on your guy, you want to go full on party on a Tuesday night? Yeah. And they're like, well, I've got to get up for work in the morning fellow. And a lot of the guys, one of the guys from the Canadian chapter come over a little while ago, and a lot of the guys I couldn't make that was doing something else. But a lot of the guys when I met him in London and staff and made him really I'm really good friends with him through some of the communications we've had, you know, it's a very, very given thing, you know, you're send some of your patches over to them, they'll send some of yours over to you know, the whole kind of the vibe like that, like sharing is great. Yeah, that's, that's a real positive for me. It really is, you know, and again, it helps in in everyday life. You know, if a guy's like a J, one of our guys is a roofer. So, you know, if he will say to, you know, an Algerian good, only good roofers, and obviously, you've met decent guys through the villain, so you'd be like yet more likely to recommend them. Because you know, those guys, of course, you want somebody you can trust, don't you? Yeah, exactly. So there's no, I'm not saying it's like the song masons. But you know, you know, but you would do that in your normal life. People you be afraid that if you were to go to first when you because you sort of know them, you've got to know them. And that is a good thing. So yeah, in all walks of life. It's it. You know, that's how to, to get get through it. I think that's a definite that isn't building bonds. That's the whole thing that the bonding of it is great. Yeah, the bonding. And what you end up giving back is overrides every other misconception that says, Oh,

Wayne:

yeah, definitely. I think you've I think you've got that across to be honest.

Trev:

Hopefully, I think so. Yeah, no, there's no, there's no bad words to say about it at all.

Wayne:

If anyone's got any preconceived ideas, which, you know, we know that that happens, because of the reasons we said at the start of this, you know, that hopefully, this has dispelled that, and you can see the good thing guys, yeah , and as i say, if anybody wants to get involved. Chuck us a message on our website, I'll answer it and point you in the right direction. If you want to join your local chapter, if you got a beard long enough. I'll put you in touch with the right people. And then you can get on the journey that I've enjoyed. That's brilliant trev. No, sure people would appreciate it. Yeah, you can go to our website. There's a blue badge on the website homepage where you can leave a voicemail throughyour phone, or leave us a message. You don't have to tie it. That's how lazy, we've made it for you. We like lazy. But go to the website. Anyway. There's plenty of information on there. We'll put some pictures of trevs beard on there. And if they're already in there, it's that I think you'll find it easy enough. Yeah. But that's definitely our website. See that big word? It's www.amlopodcast.com. Everything's linked to that we've got a blog on there. For all the episodes, please get involved. We want to give back and basically leave us some ideas what you'd like us to talk about.

Trev:

Thank you for the opportunity of kind of getting across what the villains is about the bearded villain are about. I think you've done that trev.

Wayne:

And I know how important it is to you and the work. You guys put in a big part of my life. I hope people can take from it now and say, take away their preconceived ideas.

Trev:

Because it's a world where some was they were somewhere where there was a meat going on. They saw a lot of guys with toes and big beards and patches on their jackets and stuff. They wouldn't think oh, boy, you know? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Now, hopefully they don't hopefully, I think No, no, that's, that's those bearded villains that I heard on the podcast. So you know, they they're decent fellas they? Yeah, yeah, that break. preconceived ideas.

Wayne:

That's that preconceived idea. You have, I think you've done that job. I'll say, I know. Because I know you. I obviously had the right idea about it. Anyway? I see I'm doing it. So I know that but yeah, I can see why other people do you know, we do these notions of people looking a certain way. You know, that there's somebody recently, Trevor's basically covered it all. But you if you want to be involved, there's an opportunity there to get spotted and go through this probation. And basically, which sounds like fun in itself is, you know, if I could grow one, I'd do it myself.

Trev:

Yeah, don't be scared of the promotion, the I'll get try to get across to a lot of the lads and staff who have joined and they're a bit worried because they want to get on with people and I want to do this, I wanted to make it fun first, and then it'll all click into place. That's the whole thing. Enjoy it first. Let it come to you get yourself involved. And then it will form itself, but it did for me, that's the thing.

Wayne:

That's the whole thing. Well, I think you can tell from that the it's cool to be a member of a beard club. The British beard club. Any kind of club owner Sure, we're talking about different kinds of clubs along the way, you know, none of it's bad. You know, if you're getting something from it, it's always gonna be a positive attitude from people

Trev:

he does. Yeah, that's, that's a big thing. I really appreciate your input. And that really does a good job in promoting a positive I should like to think that the guys obviously think I've done a good job of talking about it and getting it across to the general public who listen to this. You know that Yeah,

Wayne:

is there a website people can go to for merchandise or anything trivia if they have a beard, obviously. Yeah.

Trevor Deeley:

You got the main beaded villain side. To me, the best way to do it is check out the main BD villain site, see what it's all about? And then IGA or Facebook? Perfectly I do because Instagram, that seems to be the way we work it a lot more is scout where you are locally, and find the scout or the captain of the CO captain and message them. So basically, on our Instagram page, we've got the links to who are the other main guys in it. So if you message them, they're pointing the right direction aside, even if you're a guy from Bristol or something, and you've just listened into this detail, I'll approach because I know Trev does this podcast. Go to him and and I'll point you in the right direction of where the guys from Bristol who wants to join the local BD villains. I'll put them in touch with the guys now you guys are

Wayne:

very generous offer trev Thank you. That's brilliant. Thanks very much for joining us on this episode. It's been great again. Excellent. And we'll see you on the next one.

Trev:

Yep, look forward to it.

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