Jan. 10, 2021

Help Me Cool Older Dudes, You're My Only Hope

Wayne & Trev discuss how Star Wars has influenced and shaped their lives since boyhood and compare the impact of the original trilogy with the general apathy that surrounds everything else in the Star Wars universe since.


Date: 10th January 2021

Name of show: A Midlife Less Ordinary

Episode title and number: Help Me Cool Older Dudes, You’re My Only Hope” Se1 Ep1

Brief summary of show:

Wayne & Trev discuss how Star Wars has influenced and shaped their lives since boyhood and compare the impact of the original trilogy with the general apathy that surrounds everything else in the Star Wars universe since. 

Ultimately they conclude as to whether it's still cool to love Star Wars as a middle aged guy or should they turn to the dark side and grow up!

Bullet points of key topics & time stamps:

Trev: 4:23 

I mean, I remember being an infant school and having like a little Harrington Lambretta jacket and thinking it was like Han Solo sort of waistcoat. Yeah. Obviously it had arms and idiot mittens, it also I think it was probably a tank top or something. It probably was to be on it but yeah, I honestly thought it was like the jacket was a Han Solo jacket.

 

Trev: 17:08 

Obviously, you had Jango Fett? Yeah as you know, Boba Fett to us when we were kids had so much mystery about him. So much mystery because the figure got banned because he had a flying rocket out of his back and then  re released. He folks, I think Boba Fett came out as an action figure before you'd even seen him.

 

Trev: 35:19 

Can you imagine me and you walking about about at Christmas? drunk after about 15 pints of Guinness? Absolutely. walking around with over 1000 pounds worth of gear. Imagine what state we would be in.

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Transcript

intro:

You're listening to a mid life less ordinary, the weekly podcast giving you the lowdown on becoming a cool older dude. The good times are not afraid of memory. It's time to start loving them again. And here are your hosts Wayne and trout.

Wayne:

Yeah, hello everyone. This is Wayne and this is Trev. And today we're going to be doing an episode lovingly called, helped me call out dudes. You're my only hope, which is a nod to a film that's been up show you can guess To be honest, a big part of our lives while you're listening. Exactly, exactly that. So he's obviously Star Wars. It had to come out eventually. We thought we'd do it early in the episodes. And we're basically going to get it out of the way. Is Star Wars called for a middle aged man. So still love? Or is it named?

Trev:

is called Star Wars still call full stop.

Wayne:

Good point. Trev It's Yeah, is it still called full stop is the newer Star Wars like it but

Trev:

it's easy actually still call? Really?

Wayne:

I mean, it Star Wars is called man isn't it is cold, but it will

Unknown:

be hard if you take it off.

Wayne:

Yeah, but not as a whole anymore.

Unknown:

So So what would you say? Guys? You're being Cisco?

Wayne:

Exactly. Would you? I think he started with V walks, didn't it?

Trev:

I think he did. I think he did. I think you're right there. Yeah. Because as you said the US Empire Strikes Back, which was a very, not very dark, but quite a dark, more of an adult film. And then all of a sudden, you had these cute little teddy bears running? Which I think yes, not only that, I think that was probably stuff obviously the market inside of it started with Star Wars figures, which again, that was a big part of our growing up. Yeah, childhood, wasn't it? You know, but I think that the that the watch was lucasfilms real attempt to market something without it being really not relevant to the story. But someone with at that table at that big, big Lucasfilm table said, you know, we could sell these he walks with

Wayne:

Yeah, we're making lots of money out of the merchandise here.

Trev:

Exactly. what it is. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, they were more maybe they were more market intellectual. I don't know. That's just me. No, I

Wayne:

think that I think you're definitely right. And, you know, as we hopefully will come to discover this through the course of this episode. So to start with memories of Star Wars. So how did we get to love Star Wars? And I think there's a lot to do with the time it was 1977 I think like it, there was nothing like a space Western apparently wasn't it?

Trev:

Exactly. Yes. And to be honest, if the thing is with it, the whole thing was, there wasn't many blockbusters then. No. So it was like the film to see it wasn't like you had another Transformers movie or another Hellboy movie or whatever. It was just Star Wars. You just used to see

Wayne:

adverts for it didn't use everywhere.

Trev:

Is it? Yeah, it was everywhere. It was it was the thing you couldn't you couldn't get away from it.

Wayne:

I'd never been to the cinema when Star Wars. I mean, I was only six years old. To be fair, you know, and I two younger brothers and

Trev:

I I'd been to see Herbie and stuff.

Wayne:

Oh, so you had a really good benchmark to watch it by. You started low.

Trev:

The benchmark was Herbie and Bandy.

Wayne:

Wow. Yeah, that sounds I can see

Trev:

was compared to those two was obviously quite, quite a big thing.

Wayne:

eye opening. Yeah, I mean, to be fair, I mean, I found the whole experience quite scary. I'm in the queue. Welcome members queuing up around the block and a hot summer's night. At the Odeon two in Southend on sea and Essex. And once we got in, if people smoking in some of the chairs,

Trev:

yeah. I remember that in the front row seat to the right.

Wayne:

That's right. There was Yeah, I smoked it memory of it. And I remember that the music started, I was quite scared and are set for this movie. And the next day, I was pretending to be Jet Airways. And, you know,

Trev:

for me, it was just hands off even from what even from an

Unknown:

early age true. Yeah, yeah.

Trev:

I mean, I remember being an infant school and having like a little Harrington Lambretta jacket and thinking it was like Han Solo sort of waistcoat. Yeah. Obviously at arms and idiot mittens it also I think it was probably a tank top or something. It probably was to be on it but yeah, I honestly thought it was like the jacket was a hand siloes jacket.

Wayne:

So you went to school and you've done the same thing you send up Han Solo and he

Trev:

never wanted to be Luke Skywalker a Jedi I was I was completely into hands on. That was my thing you always have been I'd be fair. Yeah, yes. Yeah, even I even dressed I might offend you dress cost costume of Han Solo in hos scale with bad

Unknown:

old Parker. That was recently it was it

Trev:

was kind of you must watch it again. Just didn't recreate it. I remember having getting a parka blue parka with the hood, which I already had. And then I got and believe it or not, I had gardening gloves on for gloves or ski gloves. You know, the old ski gloves? Yes. Dude shops, kids shops. I had moon boots on. Wow, high tech moon boots. And I had a pair of goggles and a tennis visor. I beat the hood. Oh, I hadn't fully accessorized when I did the whole thing.

Wayne:

empire strikes back now, isn't it? So?

Unknown:

It is? Yeah, obviously

Trev:

we I'm jumping a bit here. But yeah, that that I actually did that. But my memory of Star Wars was I've got a brother who's nine years older than me. And he just wouldn't take me to see he wasn't interested. And I couldn't go on my own obviously. And my mom and dad didn't have a lot of interest. And it was always, you know, get your brother or take him. You know, he's your brother. And I actually saw a weird thing about Star Wars you saw at the Odeon. And I saw the classic in westcliffe was on a two different cinemas. I didn't realize and No, nobody died until you mentioned it just now. And I actually saw it on the very last night. It was out it was on. Really? Yeah. Well, very last night. Yeah. So I could have missed it. And I proud pride myself on scene. I'm going to say every Star Wars film at the cinema which I have excuse my mobile. But But there's one I didn't see. But we touch on that later on. Surely.

Wayne:

No, don't be awful. You were lucky to see in that case in and Oh yeah, you might not be playing

Trev:

my whole childhood and

Wayne:

life could have been changed. You certainly imagine a life without that. You know, in our child. We were so lucky. He says you say there was nothing like it. And then the whole world exploded in it. And then there were no spoilers we had to wait three years for a movie to come out in we

Trev:

it wasn't the internet. There wasn't a sneak guy. No sneak peeks or there were trailers but also teasers weren't there wasn't no kind of Internet Movie Database or you could no check up it was it was just

Wayne:

pure. Wait. You just waited in. So anticipated The Empire Strikes

Trev:

Back? Interesting. You hade was getting the bubblegum cards?

Unknown:

Yes.

Trev:

I think I got Empire Strikes Back bubblegum cards. all fours at two bubblegum in there. Oh, yeah. Oh, it

Unknown:

was hot carbon.

Trev:

Yeah. Pink cardboard? Yeah. But um, yeah, I

Wayne:

thought about the masks that came with ice lilies. Did you have them? Oh, yes.

Trev:

Yes. Some of them did have some of them because obviously I'd gone through a similar thing. We planted the pipes as a kid. But again, that'll be for another episode. Of course.

Unknown:

They'll come up

Trev:

but no, yeah. Like the merchandise you would just crave it. Yes, we crave and the first Star Wars figures I bought, again was Han Solo. Yeah, that's a big heads up with the small head. None of these big headed Han Solo. When did

Wayne:

the did you do know when the figures originally come up? Was it more with the Empire Strikes Back?

Trev:

I didn't. Because I love the figures and stuff. And I led me I didn't have this. But people probably will put me right here because I think we're fans but there's obviously bigger fans than us about the kind of send away thing where you only got the box cardboard box and there's the figures came afterwards? I don't remember doing that. I just remember buying Han Solo from wh Smiths. I think trying to remember I think they were about 99 p

Unknown:

Yes. I think that's right.

Trev:

I think I think Yeah, I got that one from Smith's and I think they were they were palitoy they're not Yes. I believe Kenna took over Empire people will could come in and write to us or email us and shows up. People will know. Yeah, yeah. People will know, people, people that we know. will know. That's just shocking. Exactly. And I think Canada took over in The Empire Strikes Back ones I

Wayne:

think yes. I think that's right, right. Yeah. That's when the merchandising really took off. Yeah. So that's, you know, figures, the movies right up to return at a deadeye where we're a bit older. That's the residing memories of bunking off school basically, exactly. You know, you're gonna hold up to

Trev:

a final bumped off school in the afternoon or the opening days to see Empire and return the Jedi.

Wayne:

Well, well, I can't say I was too goody goody, but fair play to you. That's a pretty cool thing to do at such a young age. To

Unknown:

be fair, it wasn't with my parents. Now, obviously,

Wayne:

once you get a good spanking for it, it's okay in the 70s, obviously, but

Trev:

not exactly. You're not gonna put one of those spoiler alerts. No, no, no.

Wayne:

So, you know, that's that's our memories. And now we come on to the light. You know, we're older now we're in our late 20s. And there's talk of George Lucas doing free more Filling in the gap, the prettier the the gaps, the pre color story. So what sort of impact What do you remember about the prequels coming

Trev:

in? I'm quite excited about it. And I remember meeting you buying quite a bit of much before it come out like Darth Maul figure and stuff like that. Yeah, Qui Gon Jr, who actually really looked like that and didn't know as we did. Yeah, yeah. It would have fancy dresses him as well. I didn't really look like him. You did. But it's easy for him. And the best things about it. Yeah. Not the podcast racing. Sorry.

Unknown:

No, God

Trev:

was really excited. And I remember going to see them but midnight embezzled, and with a few friends, not you strangely enough, no, no, I think I've done a weapon. No. And I remember really wanting to like them. And I remember sitting there trying to have that they were good. Yeah. Don't get me wrong. The saber fight at the end would die. He was brilliant. When it's good. Yeah, he's good. And then you'd think back and there's mentioned things like mini chlorines. And that you think, and trade fairs or whatever. It was boring when your kid wants to know about this, when they

Wayne:

can refer to it in the in the credits like they used to, but don't want to know that. Even at 30 years old. I didn't want to know about it, to be honest.

Trev:

To be honest, now I've watched him again, because obviously I do own them. And they're just pretty bad. Yeah, to be honest, they really are. Too many effects. Not enough so many effects and to be the kid that plays anarchy in the young anarchy in is just like a noise come off a High School Musical. Yeah, he was just like, well, I and soboba. And that year, so I just, yeah, I can barely watch them now when they're on.

Wayne:

And you can see that the when it comes to the second one, which was Attack of the Clones, which sounds like some kind of an agree, pain or disease, but they try to add loads of jadeite to make it cool. Exactly. Exactly. They tried to make that one call by having loads of JIEDDO as

Trev:

I say two words. Yeah. You and tell me what you think you're going Roger Roger.

Wayne:

Yeah. Not the BBC television comedy from the night. That's probably better to be honest, but

Trev:

probably well scripted. A Better run.

Wayne:

Yes, indeed. But Roger Yeah, exactly. Roger. Roger.

Unknown:

What was that about?

Wayne:

I know. Yeah. Roger. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, yeah, you're just playing it just made to start I don't know if George Lucas just had a personality transplant at some point in his life. And he just

Trev:

I think, I don't know did he write it? Oh, yeah. I

Unknown:

think he did this.

Trev:

Yeah, but why didn't he probably didn't listen. Well. I thought I thought we thought George Lucas. You think you can do anything? Yes, you can do whatever you put down on paper because you know it's going to sell you know people are gonna watch it. So you could probably do anything. And well if you were George Lucas during the Scott Star Wars prequel would you listen to anybody? If I went to punish George that he can't that pot rice in this crap?

Wayne:

Yeah. You wouldn't would You're the God of cinema now.

Trev:

Lucas, yeah. I've had the biggest sci fi film ever. Yeah. Which was supposed to wasn't I can do what I want. Yeah, exactly. So you're not gonna listen to

Wayne:

advice or you didn't want to get was earning Kirshner still alive.

Trev:

I don't know he looked really creepy didn't

Wayne:

base a bloody good director. Yeah,

Trev:

he was. To be honest, he he virtually made like a fulfill. Yes, Empire Strikes Back star. Yes. I think that I'm a massive Warfield fan as you know you are when you watch the Battle of Hoth is just amazing.

Wayne:

But that's why I've got just some artwork on my arm off where we will talk about we'll bring that up another time but yeah, and the reasons we think Star Wars is cool. So yeah, the pre called they come out we didn't think my job and we was trying to work out basically if it was because we were older and we just didn't have that kind of sense of adventure we had

Trev:

I just think they're bad. Yeah,

Unknown:

I started Yeah.

Trev:

Yeah, I just think they are they're very wouldn't the actions would not nothing. Yeah. even hate it. Yeah, I think a great actor, I'm afraid. I know. He's cuz he's gonna play. He's gonna reprise his role, isn't he? So? Yes. The thing with

Wayne:

him as well. I mean, he was good as you could. He was a good replacement for Guinness.

Trev:

But then when he said that, take the high ground and I'm taking the other class. No, go for it. Walking on Frankenstein. Sorry. Yeah, but I remember that gives me a bit of hope when I remember reading so it might have been an empire or something. And you and McGregor was saying that you had to pick his own lightsaber. Yes. And because obviously his uncle's in the original owner Greg fire. Yes, he was. It was weird, wasn't it? Yeah. Which Yeah. And so he had kind of like a tie to obviously he must have been a fan like we are because I think we have similar ideas to you and McGregor on we

Unknown:

decided, yeah,

Trev:

we hope he wants to listen to him. Okay. Actually, yeah. Yeah, we actually two different people. Were just masking this. Yes. So people will listen so we can hear what I really thought about it. Exactly. So when I live in

Wayne:

Florida, we don't live in North any glory.

Trev:

Glory. He said that. He was really excited to pick his own lightsaber. And I thought that sounds great. Yeah. And then there was obviously you had most wind doing it. Who was Samuel Jackson? Yeah, he's gotta be cool. This is it. Exactly. And then I remember watching a YouTube clip or some guy had filmed. And it wasn't the first one. I can't remember which one he actually put me right. But the first time you saw Yoda, fighting all these Americans would like cheered in the cinema and stuff. And he just looked like a green nap.

Wayne:

A lot cooler than that.

Trev:

Because I don't think Yoda should particularly fight. Exactly epic fight. He doesn't need to use and how did he?

Wayne:

I know he lives for a long time. Why did he How did he deteriorate that quickly? Between between the secret I mean 30 years and in the grand scale of his life. He'd gone from doing Sonic the Hedgehog impressions that he's fighting to rd bringing any energy to help out Luke Skywalker when he's training his planet, you know, so it just works. It just it's just trying to make things cool, which aren't and you sure they left them where they were unable to come in?

Trev:

Obviously, you had Jango Fett? Yeah is you know, a guy bobba Fett to us when we were kids had so much mystery about you. So much mystery because the figure was got of Bane because he had a flying rocket out of his back and re released. He folks, I think Boba Fett came out as a figure before you'd even seen him.

Wayne:

He was cooler when he had an English accent and didn't.

Unknown:

It wasn't a key way else. Yeah, I've

Wayne:

got nothing against Kiwis, but

Trev:

no. It's funny. Yeah, he was a bad ass, obviously. But you know, the other thing we haven't spoke about less than which we probably will very quickly because I don't think we even thought about that was the remake of all the stuff put in? Yeah, that well, that's fair enough.

Wayne:

I think we'll do that for a different episode.

Trev:

Obviously, there's one hidden the first one that Han Solo credo. Yes. crushed me. Absolutely. That

Wayne:

takes away the coolness of Han Solo. That's exactly who was the

Trev:

kind of badassery out of hand solos character.

Wayne:

Yeah. Because I think you've just summed it up. Actually. I think he

Trev:

didn't care what he did. He didn't have he was a scoundrel. Yeah. Didn't reason to shoot Baba Greedo in cold blood.

Wayne:

If you can watch the movies, watch the originals, as they were released. It was only because

Trev:

the characters who they weren't the best thing about it was they didn't muck about with empire that much, which is the strongest film Exactly. Didn't need to do really? No.

Wayne:

They didn't need to do that. Why did they take away from him? I

Trev:

don't know. But they can sort of see ease. They've just blacks over the windows in the slow speed is a bit. Yeah. Because the effects but they still didn't they did you didn't hide the bubble wrap on the cigarettes. Do that. Surprise one of the snowspeeder pilots wasn't popping in?

Wayne:

Yeah, I would I wouldn't be resist that. Would

Trev:

you? Got one hand steering wheel and one pop? Exactly.

Wayne:

So yeah, we're pretty cool. So you can tell we don't think much of them. So that that brings us nicely to something who actually puts the perspective that the prequels were actually better than we thought and that's the sequels. So where do we go with that?

Trev:

Well, I think we've seen those all together. We do.

Wayne:

Yeah, we have. A we have

Trev:

we both had those moments of just looking at each other.

Unknown:

Through Yeah.

Trev:

What is that about?

Unknown:

What are they done that?

Trev:

Yes, yes.

Wayne:

I mean, the last one, especially,

Trev:

some of the thing is, is why there's bits in that the last one that don't make sense. Well,

Wayne:

I like the fact the Emperor has been playing hide and seek for 35 years. Very good, very good.

Trev:

probably as good as hiding the trick is to be an interstellar

Wayne:

remember, any Think about Interstellar roaming prey.

Trev:

Yeah. Well, they managed to hide the whole of virtually national desert. Yeah. Anyway, that was true. But yeah, there's bits now with the need to have any background knowledge when you saw the original wish you didn't have all these phillium pieces. Yeah, but there's a bit in the last one where me and you are watching it. And there was a bit luck that didn't happen. Exactly that in the comics or the books and I busted me I was never taken in. By all the extra extra detail was the film's Extended Universe stuff. Yes. Never got into that. I think I tried it when I was very, very young with spinner with a mind's eye the first novel and that was it nearly got taken in by one of the Boba Fett comics because the front the cover look call, because usually like a usual suspects lineup. Yeah, that would be cool. I can't love Yeah, it did look really cool. And there was a couple of other bounty hunters. And one of them made a stormtrooper helmet or really sort of battered and stuff. And I thought, well, this looks really good. But I didn't bother. Because I was kind of had this unwritten rule that I didn't really want to know anything apart from the movies, because that's what when we were kids, that's what we had. Yeah, movies were Yeah, there wasn't any.

Wayne:

I just tried to make money out of everything.

Trev:

That's the thing that we've thought we Baba fair and other stuff. characters. You don't need to know their background, a bit of mystery. That's what made our imagination. Yes. When we were kids with the fingers. We didn't have a great deal of background on the character. So we made our own up.

Wayne:

Exactly. Yeah, that was the cut. I wanted to still be doing that when I'm 48 years old. You know,

Trev:

I still work with mystery beyond the character. We've all got our own voice that these sort of stuff that these characters use. I remember there being all that fast with Judge Dredd when it came out. Yeah, as you'd read a comic and you'd have that voice in your head and then all of a sudden, Rocky was doing it or Judge Dredd was really drew and so it was just shattered people's dreams. Yes. And I think that's what does what, especially with the new ones, and like with the TV show at SciShow, the Mandalorian it it. It's taking those little bits out your childhood because they're feeling busy. It's ruining Yeah,

Wayne:

it's really ruining it as good.

Trev:

I mean, it will pass anyway. I love it.

Wayne:

Don't get me the Mandalorian look Star Wars. That's the good thing about it.

Trev:

production values are I know a massive Jon Favreau fan love You know, I

Wayne:

love what he does. But he's making the same mistake as all the other film

Trev:

he's become Mr. Star Wars hasn't Yes, on February now. Yeah. He has become me. Sorry, john. Yeah, by what you said. I loved it. Yeah. Yeah.

Wayne:

I think he's basically like, he hasn't got well this is for that one for another day. Maybe because Exactly. But so basically, what we're saying is the the the seven, eight and nine, they basically went from the first one which, which is probably the best one out of the free I guess it was the first one. The new ones. The new ones. Yeah, I don't I don't remember. Off the top of my show. Exactly. I mean, I've never forget the original but but the first one we thought we watched it was said it was a bit peds. But it's okay. The second one, you're supposed to forget all about it, aren't you? you're meant to forget about the universe because they changed the narrative for the third one. And it just got silly. So anyway, they they're not cool. I'll tell you what is cool. I want to ask you some questions. I want to see how you get on in your test. Trev. So, Trey, I've dropped this on you a bit. But I've seen as we're talking about stuff, and I just

Trev:

can I just use my laptop to go

Wayne:

No, there's no googling This is a celebration of knowledge. And that doesn't mean the celebration of how you can tap away with one finger on your might fall a bit flat.

Trev:

It'll go on well,

Wayne:

you'll be okay. So every week, I'm going to ask you five questions to do with the subject we're talking about. And soon as we were making it, we'll try first. And if it doesn't work, we'll go to free and we're ready to get down to one. So basically five questions on Star Wars and I haven't tried to be too clever with it. So which base opera comic strip originally inspired George Lucas to write the first Star Wars film? Cool. idea. Was that one more tougher? That's

Trev:

golden. Yeah, yes. Well done.

Wayne:

Yes. Stop man. You actually called out went out the bag, didn't you?

Trev:

I tried to make out I didn't know if

Wayne:

you're getting an applause for that one. Okay, number two, What color was Qui Gon Jin's lightsaber.

Unknown:

Green. That's true. That is right.

Trev:

I'm not a big fan of those ones. But

Wayne:

But you do you know this one? Yes. This is gonna be free or free. Yes. Why you want us to stop at free? You knew the first thing we're gonna be in your head. Yeah, you know, in The Empire Strikes Back. Lando Calrissian is the Baron administrator of Cloud City on which planet bestbet

Trev:

Yes.

Wayne:

Indeed free Africa. Should we stop there? This is going well. I haven't I didn't even know we were doing this. We'll keep going. All right, let's make it tougher. What is the name of Jabba the huts in house band in return to the Jedi? ego there's a little curveball for you. I wouldn't expect you to get that necessarily. Know,

Unknown:

is there a clue? Is the max.

Trev:

Oh, yeah. It's now got some nice noodles bounced around in my head. Yeah,

Wayne:

you know, you can see it but you can't leave. Oh, yes.

Unknown:

Well done.

Wayne:

I'll give you a half an applause for that one. Yeah, that one. Go quick one. trade off. Right. And the last one, which Star Wars film has the most Academy Awards to its name?

Trev:

Got to be one of the effects heavy ones. Really?

Wayne:

Oh, I'll give you a tip there. Should Be quiet. You don't see Jimbo in a bull's eye doing

Trev:

smashing in a caravan. Now you speedboat your back garden even Manchester in a capitalist state somewhere completely. No water near you. Excuse me. I've

Wayne:

got a boat you know? I'm living it man. Um, yeah, so he's Don't try to distract from the actual question

Trev:

I captured Ron which.

Wayne:

Which Star Wars film has the most Academy Awards to its name?

Trev:

It's probably got them for sound.

Wayne:

Just ever guess ever step? You've got four hours?

Trev:

I'll give you these four out of five. So yeah, in damn bad. Doo doo, doo doo doo doo doo doo.

Unknown:

In law Strikes Back.

Wayne:

I would have said that. Do you know that? I would have said the same. It's not actually. And this was my fault. This is the one you wouldn't get all my job and I will destroy Gold Star Wars. Star Wars A New Hope. Yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't know that. But it did one six. Apparently. Don't ask why that's for another another episode. Anyway, that's the test. Trevor? You don't well, four out of five. I think I think he was worried about that. I could tell when your voice was. Yeah. And I think you've retained your coolness of Star Wars.

Trev:

Yes. Yeah,

Wayne:

I think I have. So I think now we should. Perhaps we should go into the summary for today's episode. Okay, so. So. So is it cool to be into Star Wars in your middle age?

Trev:

I think it is. As long as you keep it. You're not running about in Darth Maul t shirts or you haven't got a cardboard cutout in your room. He's just a couple

Wayne:

cutout beings. Yeah, exactly. Who likes Georgia? Because if anyone likes Jar Jar Binks, go to our website. And please leave us a message.

Trev:

Leave us a meme of Jar Jar.

Unknown:

Yeah. Please do. Yeah.

Trev:

Honestly. Yeah, that that's the thing. I think he's, I think you could be cold if it's selective, I'm afraid.

Wayne:

Yeah. So it's cool to be into the original not just because we're older. And it was cool. Because they were

Trev:

cool. They were good. Yeah, they were good. They were good movies. The thing is, is not that cold to like to because they're not that great films. That's the thing. No,

Wayne:

they've kind of legacies been damaged. And if you took the star they're not even very good sci fi films. Not anymore. No, not in comparison to what's

Trev:

very quickly as an example. I will use the Lord the new the second Blade Runner film. I guess not a good Blade Runner film, in my opinion. Very good. standalone sci fi film. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, a great Blade Runner film. But the Star Wars of our we haven't mentioned saying that that we haven't mentioned Rogue One every now which I think

Wayne:

it I think started one's probably the best effort

Trev:

out of but I do think do you think they did it on purpose trying to aim Rogue One at the 40 year old fear I do

Wayne:

anything wrong with that because, you know, at the end of the day, we I kind of enjoyed that one in and didn't think too much about it afterwards. To sum it

Trev:

up. One of the things that really surprised me and when I said I've seen all the Star Wars films at the cinema, which I have apart from one and that was the one I was dreading the most was so low. I couldn't I don't think I could have watched it the cinema because I I was dreading you had low expectations for

Wayne:

that. And perhaps

Trev:

these were This is when there's two people film wise that I just think Uber call and I couldn't really. They're on a path for me. Han Solo and the Duda Big Lebowski. They're like that there's one question. Like, what's the meaning of life? To me? One of the big questions of my life is who is the call is Han Solo or The Big Lebowski, the dude. But, so I was dreading solo, I just thought it would absolutely ruin everything. And then I watched it on my own. And I was like, I'm really enjoying this in a kind of Indiana Jones in space. Why? Yes. Don't get me wrong. It's not amazing movie. It's not style, but it's just a really enjoyable well. So

Wayne:

another star four star five.

Trev:

Star Wars, a good spice adventure. It's got a real kind of Indiana Jones feel to it. There's bits of it that are a bit Whoa. But as a whole, and I bust I even watch it twice in one day. Yeah, well, you can't

Wayne:

like it's fun. I mean, it hasn't done very well. There's never gonna be another it was always. Yeah, exactly.

Trev:

It was great. And the kids are great. The kids are really good at it. Yeah. I think the house is really good in it. And they even spoilers if you haven't seen it. They even put the shoot first bit, right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It was great. Yeah. picked up on that. They've tried to make up for that mess.

Wayne:

It's a little nod to people of our age, I guess, my

Trev:

baby, and even even the way he met chewy. He had a bigger Star Wars fans. We are Bob abbreviating Chewbacca his name. But yes, that that even even the way I was reading that as well. But even that was done quite well. Exactly. Yeah. So yeah, I must admit that I'm Rogue One

Wayne:

day stand out as a little bit where the other six

Trev:

are gonna talk about the Mandalorian. And we'll still

Wayne:

we'll talk about Star Wars again, it will come up is referenced in every episode, I'm guessing but yeah, exactly. It's basically summarize. I mean, I have to say it's called not to justify two things. I have Stormtrooper armor, and I've worn it and done events in it. And it's been very cool. And when you saw it, when you see middle aged men center, their kids going have your photo taken, we really they want their photo taken. And I've seen that

Trev:

and when you would have been like it. Yeah, cool. I was on holiday in Dublin. Really, really drunk on a Saturday afternoon in a bar. And there was two stormtroopers walked past and an imperial guard that advertise I think you should have been planet that just opened there. Yes. Oh, that's

Unknown:

a good reason to

Trev:

come running out of the pub. And I was so drunk. I actually fell over in front of these two guys, because I just wanted to get out of

Wayne:

that. I'd like to make you feel like a kid again, when you see these beads in it. And you can see it in people's faces.

Trev:

Yes. This window and stormtroopers.

Wayne:

Cool. I mean, that was done troopers or call. They're not very great adversaries, but

Trev:

they are. What makes them cool. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. disposable. And again, when we were kids, no one knew what was under their uniforms. No one knew was under the armor. And then all of a sudden, they've told you what that is. Yeah, not

Wayne:

knowing it was better not not knowing. Yeah, cuz you kind of fought with us a kid that kind of robot II type things. And you're like, kind of don't know. We just didn't know it was stolen troopers. Yeah. And it just sounded. sounded very Nazi Germany is one of the things we're

Trev:

gonna talk about the Mandalorian. Now not,

Wayne:

not today. Not we'll bring that up. I think I've got I've got some views as part as part of TV series. I mean, obviously, we're going to cover a lot, you know, over

Trev:

again, TV's really influenced, I

Wayne:

think Mandalorian crosses the boundaries, hence why I'm watching it with a nine year old and I'm yeah,

Trev:

I've got a different opinion on the Mac, because I don't

Wayne:

know exactly. So that's probably work exactly that so we can talk about that in a different genre. So. So what's it called? Yeah, my me. Trevor's got reside in memory. He knows more than I do. To be fair about Star Wars in general. I think you do.

Trev:

Have to question you Next,

Wayne:

don't you because you're the comic book culture and things like that. No. So you even though you never at the Star Wars. I just think you may have picked up a bit you could answer more questions. more solid. put it that way. But I love it just because it's been a massive part of my life. I've got the Stormtrooper armor. I've got I'll just quit. We should talk

Trev:

about the guy that really designed.

Wayne:

Yeah, it was Yeah, I don't want to advertise them unless they sponsor us or something. Yes, it was very expensive. I could only afford it because when I bought it, I was 40 years old and I could only afford it because I'm

Trev:

not you have mastered the next episode of water, my mobile.

Wayne:

I appreciate the sound effects coming in. But

Trev:

I remember you wanting them and remember me? Do you have a conversation about Stormtrooper outfits and you actually wanted to go out? Get one for each of us and we were gonna go out? Drinking?

Wayne:

I'd love that. And

Unknown:

how much was yours worth? How

Wayne:

much you owe? I paid about? I think it's about 1100 quid or something.

Trev:

Can you imagine me and you talking about Christmas? drunk after about 15 pints of Guinness? Absolutely. walking around with over 1000 pounds worth of gear. You measure what state you live. Oh, yeah, we all keep bad rubbish. Honestly,

Wayne:

we'd lose parts of it because people would be trying you can see that'd be the best 1100 quid I'd ever spend, though. To be fair, it would waste waste. Yeah.

Trev:

But to be honest, I couldn't do it now anyway, cuz my beard would just stick at the bottom of it. Is this is true.

Wayne:

You could do what you always promised not to do Trev you could tie up your beard.

Trev:

You could do that. I've done that.

Wayne:

Yeah, if you needed to. So we could get away with it. But that, you know, I find that kind of stuff. Cool. And also, you know,

Trev:

to do an episode as well, if this will really divide opinion on not cause cause. Yeah, cause play. Yeah. Is that so? Well,

Wayne:

I've got, I've got a fitness goal. Now, because I've got no choice. I don't fit all of his core was the same as everything else.

Trev:

I've got really, I've got a bit of a love hate thing with that. But we discussed that. And we do that on us forever one.

Wayne:

My other reason for saying Star Wars is called not put it in, in room 101 completely is because obviously, I'm bloody inked with it on my right arm under a moment. I mean, I love the design. But it's been the bane of my life. Everywhere I go, even up to a couple of months ago, I walked down Oxford Street, and this is a time of COVID. And somebody stopped me and my colleague in the street and I was at work. And they said, Oh gee, would you mind signing up for this? vaping? And I said, Well, I don't smoke it and do vapor. And he said, Oh, he said, may the force be with you? And I was like, this is the kind of

Trev:

code to say that.

Wayne:

Yeah, but he obviously Yeah, because he can see at at walkers on my homies giving him a free license to do it. So why did I do it? Why did I do it at the time the new films were coming out as well. You were with me that night in in a theater when I went up to the bar and a bloke said something similar, didn't he? And I'm just like, I'm drunk. And I'm saying, Oh, don't say, don't say these things in no uncertain terms.

Trev:

With the idea, I was very close at one point to having a hand solo. You fought more about your toes than I ever try. And the other one I did think about, and I'm glad I didn't. And probably people have got it. And it is cold. But I bet it is not for me. Was I thought about getting the rebel and the Empire's insignia. I could see that on top of my feet. Yeah. Yeah, that that

Unknown:

would be cool. Because it's Yeah.

Trev:

Yeah. And again, when we talk about tattoos in another episode, we definitely will be one of the best tattoo Star Wars tattoos I've seen apart from yours, obviously. And again, that ties in very quickly with your wife our

Wayne:

design, my toad. At the time is cold. Don't get me wrong. It's grainy, but it's just the whole aura surrounding it. Yes. But yeah, this.

Trev:

I'm in the Google in Han Solo. portrait done. And some guy had had hand silos blaster, which is one of the coolest guns ever. Yes. And he had had that tattooed on one forearm underneath the forum. And what would you call the bit under the forum just there? By the rest? He had the blast room there. And on his other on his other arm exactly the same place? He had decades GM Blade Runner. Yeah. And that is, well, first of all, we should have we should have had that done.

Wayne:

But now it's not original anymore. So you think Oh, I can't avail Yeah, can't do it. You can To be fair, you could.

Trev:

But you're not original to be that guy do

Wayne:

but that's for that's for another time anyway. But I think we I think we've justified why Star Wars is called.

Trev:

Some of it is called. It's called bits of it.

Wayne:

So don't be embarrassed. If you if you're not into Star Wars in your air rage. Go and check it out.

Trev:

I mean, you might find something in it. Now you might like to think I think you'd really struggle to find someone.

Wayne:

You'll never get back that 18 hours of your life to be fair, but no, no, no, I can't imagine what kind of impact it would have if you watched it now and had never watched them. Depends what kind of medication you're on. I'm guessing but a lot to do with it. Sorry, but we won't go there. That's for another episode. So yeah, we're not concerned in Star Wars two room 101 that we're keeping it for now. Because I need my arm to room one who?

Trev:

You'd have no, no childhood.

Wayne:

Exactly. We'd have nothing in common. So, you know, that's great. We're keeping Star Wars is cold. And that's for today's episode.

Trev:

But you don't need to kind of know as much. No, it does,

Wayne:

it can be toned down. Sometimes less is more, sometimes less is more not yet on them. Certainly you could you wrap that right up. So that's today's episode, please join us next week we're going to be doing sun's out guns out, which is basically a nod to the gym training and when you're a middle aged, hopefully you can learn a bit from it. Trump's going to be talking about his experiences, and I

Unknown:

really liked the game and I learned a lot of you. So and you're

Wayne:

still going strong, and we'll talk about

Unknown:

that this afternoon.

Wayne:

So definitely join us for that one. You'll definitely get something out of that. And it's been great fun. And we will see you next week. That's goodbye from me.

Trev:

Bye. See ya goodbye from me.

Unknown:

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