April 25, 2021

All About Subbuteo: Flick My Ball


Transcript

intro:

You're listening to a mid life less ordinary, the weekly podcast giving you the lowdown on becoming a cool older dude. The good times are not afraid of memory. It's time to start loving them again. And here are your hosts Wayne and Travis. Yeah, welcome

Wayne:

back to a mid life less ordinary everyone. I'm Wayne. And this episode is entitled all about subito. Flick my bowl, and I've got Trev on the substitutes bench trivia, okay.

Trev:

I'm looking forward. So good ball flicking.

Wayne:

Well, what can I say?

Trev:

my and my index finger is exercised. Oh, dear.

Wayne:

Yeah. I can't even get through the introduction without you going, smutty. It's terrible. Sorry about that. But, yes. So yeah, thank you. It's all about subutteo you know anything about subbuteo trev?

Trev:

loved it as a kid. painted my own teams. Probably little numbers on the bag. I wasn't that good at it? Because I've never really I tend to make I made my own rules up. That was a thing I didn't I just stay by the robot in that. That's my in life anyway. Really? Yeah. When I was a kid, I did lots of my own rules up but yeah, I really enjoyed it. It was a really unique I didn't enjoy. And I don't think a lot of kids did was like ironing the pitch. Because when I got it, there was oil. Yeah, exactly. And so you had to ask your mom to iron the pitch. And if she wasn't tired, she would

Wayne:

never feel good, though.

Trev:

Yeah, go on. Yeah, go on. Because obviously she wouldn't let me touch the iron because I'd probably just stand and

Wayne:

also cos you need to have a flat surface. You just have to take the door off the hinges or something to lay on

Trev:

boys in my own? Ah, I think I'd be a hardball. Yeah. It's all if you pinned it to it. You had that thing where if you pin the pin your pitch out, you could like put it behind your sofa or something. But then obviously your family are watching TV and you're like, cuz I laid it on the floor is easier to lay your pitch on the floor. You could never get the creases are just bubbling. Yeah,

Wayne:

I think every kid because it's before computer games and everything. I think every kid had to be Oh, collected some of the sets I had I had a full comprehensive set in the 70s. I know I can't believe I'm that old everyone. But you know, forget that.

Trev:

That's because I haven't seen pictures of Yeah, this is true. This is your voice. Your voice does sound quite Yeah. And that

Wayne:

is only because I've used a load of EQ to change it. Yeah. Benjamin Button. But it's not a very curious case, unfortunately. But unfortunately, I sold my CBO stuff, swapped it now actually for a race and cheese cake, which was like as cheap scalix Trix clone in the 70s. American TCL Yeah, it was rubbish. And I wish I could have it back. So if you're out there who I swap that with, I'll give you a fiver for it back or something like that. But we've got we've got a real expert on today, somebody who's played a very high levels of beauty Oh, and an enthusiast. He's a an offer. And he's a deputy head of a school. And you're looking forward to a trip.

Trev:

Definitely. Yeah. Because obviously now a little bit about this. So I thought why there are the half half wise to this half, half Ernie, as I like to say.

Wayne:

But it's all football. So it's all fun. And I'm really looking forward to learning a bit about as well. So, Sean Allison is the guest. And away we go. Enjoy. Thanks for joining us today. Sean, you're here to talk about WTO which is something you've been passionate about for most of your life. For people that maybe don't know too much about WTO. Could you just explain a little bit about what solutio is and how you got involved with it, please?

shaun:

Yeah, sure can. Thanks, Wayne. So So PTO is a table football game that is played on a table and it has a football pitch and you have 11 players each side and you flick them around, and it's very, very similar to actual football really, in terms of how it's played. how I got involved. I mean, the game itself has actually been around in certain forms since about 1928. But as to beauty owes its 1947 I first started playing it, I think I was in junior school and it's in about 1982 Spain 82 the World Cup was in full flow, Linacre scoring lots of goals and somebody at Bournemouth Park Junior School, organised a simulation CBT at World Cup, and I had a go at that. And I think that Trev was there as well for that. And that's when I first started

Trev:

to be honest, I was the apps Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I was getting to a ground of it. I obviously know a little bit about berries played and that kind of stuff. But I kind of lost contact with the. But it's still always fascinated me as always, it was really good fun to but I don't think I when I was playing I don't think I played the roles were obviously shown the places you've been with it is obviously is a lot more official and stuff like, how how far do you have you taken it? How far has he has he gone with you if that makes sense?

shaun:

Oh, I've been I yeah, so I played it as a child and, you know, then your teenage years kicked in and I stopped playing it really. But then I, I kind of got back to it in the mid to late 90s, where the first school that I worked in, had a WTO table in the staff room, and you know lunchtimes and that there was a staff league and I thought I remember that, and you know, started playing again. And then from that one of the other teachers was in the wording five star table football club. And that's where I live now in West Sussex. And I then started to play at that club, and then start to get better and better. And at one point, I think it was a one my first wording league title in 2001. And at one point, I was in the top 20 in the country. So you know, a pretty good level.

Trev:

Yeah, that is something else that slide. What do you win for that? Shawn?

Wayne:

What do you get a trophy? Is there a trophy? Or is it just the credit that you get for winning?

shaun:

It's it's just the glory way? For the glory. The glory,

Trev:

what more do you need? What more do you need? Apart from all you need? That's it?

shaun:

Absolutely.

Trev:

You don't need the training kit on the side. You don't need it that is in your mind, Glory's there those years? Don't probably think back of that and will know that.

shaun:

No one's gonna take that away from me. Trev. No, but exactly. Now, you're

Trev:

right there. You're You're spot on. No one would take that. Yeah.

shaun:

And, and at that point, actually, I also got to play the number one player in the world who was at that time, it was a touch fella called Eric bahagian. And now, I mean, at that time, all he did was play WTO. And he was probably in his mid to late 20s. And he had sponsorship and everything. And it was at the London. Yeah, it was in the London international tournament. And I was drawn against him. And I mean, he was a completely, you know, different level. So much so that he really played me. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he he's right handed. And he played me left handed. And he beat me first.

Wayne:

Ronnie O'Sullivan of the beauty Oh, show

Trev:

off. Yeah.

shaun:

Exactly. Exactly. I mean, I

Unknown:

yeah,

Trev:

that's real low. Yeah, he's low. That

shaun:

is a bit of a low blow.

Trev:

Did you? Did you didn't know that. You were gonna play you left handed?

shaun:

No, no.

Trev:

All right. Because for some reason now when you say about the tournament's and stuff like I've got this feeling of like, it was like, the Cobra Kai tournament.

Wayne:

Hill Valley.

Trev:

Hill Valley. That's the word Yeah, that's how I was losers. Oh, he's he's the man to be you know, like kind of break one of these players sweep the player sweep the player kind of thing.

shaun:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Trev:

That's how did he he beat

shaun:

Shawn or did you? Did you? Well, he absolutely annihilated me by the way.

Trev:

He beat me 30 a day like don't make him believe it again.

Wayne:

I think we said long enough ago to move on a little bit. Yeah,

Trev:

I suppose. Are you over it now Sean? therapy. I'm

Wayne:

sorry. I apologize.

shaun:

Yes. And frankly Wayne you're not helping

Wayne:

me Oh, thank you.

Trev:

I feel bad. We were used to leaving the game or half time or you know that you know your goose was cooked kind of thing.

shaun:

No, no, I think he was about nine new offer half time and after that just

Wayne:

you didn't want to come after the second boy the second

shaun:

i think i think that's

Trev:

fine. egeria one

shaun:

point in the second half. Do one of my attacks he stopped and had a chat with his mate.

Trev:

Yeah, he was terrible.

Wayne:

Trying to encourage people to take you up. I don't know if anyone's gonna want to take

Trev:

you over you guys still play now?

shaun:

I don't know. I don't know. I think you probably immediately once we finish

Wayne:

Yeah, then we're gonna have to look for him and do him over or something but

Unknown:

he was very good height mild.

Trev:

Yes.

shaun:

He was actually gone.

Trev:

How good Could he have been? I don't? He did. He must have just been.

shaun:

Yeah, I mean, he was. When you think of WTO you're probably thinking of all the players wobbling all over the place love Weebles and kind of curving around. I mean, he would like, flick one of his players from his half halfway up the pitch, little soft touch into the shooting area, and then shoot and all incredibly quickly. You know, because these guys were playing with handmade machined bases from Switzerland. Incredibly flat, you know,

Trev:

like that. Was that move into that kind of thing, then? Did you move? Yeah.

shaun:

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I had, how much was that? How does that handmade Swiss Astro basis, which at the time, they cost me about 100 quid I think,

Trev:

wow. Really? for that kind of stuff.

Wayne:

The clue was in this.

Trev:

If you said to me, what country do you do you link with WTO. Switzerland would have been very low on my list. Very low on my list. For base there. Why is that?

shaun:

The first time that I tried to get a set of these bases from Switzerland, I ended up in Finland, which, you know, obviously didn't know I didn't know. On online, you get them. And that was accomplished as Astro bass. But, but no, and that's what yeah, that's high quality stuff. You know, the goalkeepers are metal, they're metal.

Wayne:

You know, as it was metal, we would have all of our mood collected. So metal

Trev:

when I was when I was playing, because I thought the advancement in the goalkeepers was like this, the springy ones, but they were.

shaun:

Yeah, they were gimmicky. And I also like the good the strange throwing fingers and the corner kickers that pivots. Yes. Yeah, no, I don't know. For those no place for those in the professional game.

Trev:

So when you're playing at that kind of level, Shawn? Yeah. Do you have all the kind of kit round you lock the ends and the flatten? was, you know, just basic table?

shaun:

Yeah, yeah. So you know, if you're playing at that level, yeah. What you'd have is your Astro patriots, which is a high high quality pitch. Yeah. On MDF. 18 mil MDF? Trev. Yeah, besides that, I think,

Trev:

yeah, I know

shaun:

all about that. But the point you make is a good one. You know about all the stands in that because I think that's the attraction of the game. Is that it appeals to us. Yeah. It absolutely. appeals to the collectors, the people like, you know, collecting all of that stuff. The stadiums, the teams, all the rest of it. It appeals to the people who like it painting their own teams, and it also appeals to people who like play. Yeah. And and I think that's why when

Trev:

I was a kid, that's what game? Yeah, yeah. Because when I was a kid, it used to put my own numbers on the back. Yeah, I had these clear stickers that you can they were they were I will get to put on be right. You'd achieve something when you put them on. But did the players have numbers on are they do they not have numbers on now? No,

shaun:

no, no, not the high. The high quality.

Trev:

As I said before the level level I was playing, obviously, and have like, two rovers and obviously, the Liverpool in the world.

Wayne:

On the collectible side, Shawn is is there? Like a holy grail of a collectible piece or a set or something in Sibiu to everyone? Yeah.

shaun:

Yeah. I mean, there's all probably the one that is well, yeah, one of the ones that is really sought after is the Italian team Palermo. Yes. Reference Number nine. And they show they do play and they play.

Trev:

Yeah.

shaun:

Yeah. And yeah, they're quite rare. And I think these days if you're trying to find a mentor, Palermo heavyweight to him from the late sort of 60s that set you back about 350 quid I would imagine now. Wow. Whoo sandwich. Yeah. Back in the 80s

Wayne:

Yeah, exactly. What is the inflationary kind of probe? What was the price of a set when you was collecting this stuff? Sure. For a set of team.

shaun:

I mean, it would vary because you'd quite often get them from a boot sale for 50 P. Yeah. But then, you know, the red teams, you can pick them up on eBay for, you know, anything upwards of 10 pound up to over 400 pounds. So, you know, huge variety really. So,

Trev:

let's see, I'm trying to think when I when I applied, and I was, yeah, I think I think the teams were about one night in because I think this sets, yeah, like kind of four years ago, we're about a year 1820 quid like the world had the spine 80 to one when I played in that tournament that the school has shown and I went to, and yeah, I think they're about 20 quid. But my big thing I remember doing was having it was about right. Yeah, I think so. And the thing I remember having was I think it must have been either Liverpool or man, you know, I did. I actually painted my own raw the rover's mill Chester's team. Yeah, she had more rice up front, because I painted his hair yellow. So it was blonde. So that's why I supply because I used to get raw the rovers when I was a kid, so obviously, that was a big thing. And like, because I've already been a football, then do I paint it? Because I do paint their own teams as well.

shaun:

Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, there are people that are obsessed with that. And, and, and, you know, I think that's why it's still so collectible. Now, you know, because I think there was some stat, I can't remember what it was. But towards the end of the 70s, early 80s, I think it was something like 90% of young boys in between the ages of 10 and 30. Had a subview to set now. So that I mean, there's a huge number out there. That that

Trev:

is obviously what they find their penises because obviously,

Wayne:

right sorry about that shows. Yeah, yeah.

Trev:

Yeah, sorry. I did. Yeah.

Wayne:

Lucky, I put us in the explicit section on Apple podcast.

Trev:

Yeah, yes. Be honest. I'll do what is called an hour into

Wayne:

it let you say it twice, because I couldn't believe it. But

Trev:

no, I know. It's exactly yeah.

Wayne:

I kind of know what you're saying. Yeah, there was a sort of truth in that question. of sorts.

shaun:

Yes. Yeah. I think so. How about reflection?

Trev:

That Dutch guy to get that good? How would you practice a home? How do you practice you just play the other guy in the club with him, but I don't well, how'd you trained to become a professional YuGiOh player?

shaun:

Well, he he told me that I asked him that, you know, after it absolutely smashed me. I asked him that. And he told me that he practiced for 10 hours every day. on his own. Not

Trev:

really?

shaun:

Oh, no, no, no,

Trev:

I think what do you think You surprise me? You surprise me.

Unknown:

Surprise. Yeah.

shaun:

I'm really. Oh, yeah. I have a bit of a bit good. We

Wayne:

both hands. Yes.

Trev:

Don't I don't understand how you can practice on your own. What do you just how do you get the skill? I don't Yeah.

shaun:

Not really the practice. You're sliding and you're shooting. So you'd have your pitch set up and you have yes and place that happened? You had practice trying to slide up?

Unknown:

It sounds like double entendre. Yeah, absolutely.

shaun:

I just realized it as that was.

Wayne:

Don't encourage him.

shaun:

Yeah, so I'll say that.

Trev:

Shooting a question. Totally. I've got everything I need to know there. Real life terms? I know exactly. But it does make sense to be honest because

Wayne:

even try to try to be serious now.

shaun:

trip in snooker. You know how they would try it? Yeah, it's up to your ball.

Unknown:

Yes, yeah.

Trev:

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

shaun:

That's what you're trying to achieve. Yeah,

Trev:

I suppose it, I suppose really, it's the same as like, a real football team practicing set pieces. Is that

shaun:

isn't it? Exactly. Yeah. pitchers in he's they're a tactical style player. Funny you should say that true? Because in some ways, there's a lot of similarities. And this might surprise you between CBT Oh, and chess? because

Trev:

surely don't believe me, please.

shaun:

Let me expand on this. It's a game of strategy. Yeah. Yeah. as as as a football, you know, because you'd have a strategy. Before you start, you know, you've got to think about in the same way, when you're playing chess, you've got to think about your cheese, your, your pieces, and your moves about five or six moves ahead. That's what you got to do with abuse. Yeah, you know, you're thinking about that long. flick up, but you're also trying to think about where that's going to go to who's going to shoot, etc, etc. So very, very similar. It's a very demanding game physically and mentally.

Wayne:

So as I said, I was hoping to do apps I wouldn't have to play football in real life, but I think I will stick to the football.

Trev:

Guys, the guys that played should pugio Yeah, this kind of level club level. Will they like the sort of same shape as dark players and snooker players?

Wayne:

What are you trying to say? elaborate on that trip? We don't sure what you mean. Remember in the 2021, as well.

Trev:

I'm still in the Werber, Nick and I that's the problem. Yeah. If our younger listeners don't know who bill WorkKeys look, then then you're looking at what I'm talking about.

shaun:

Yeah, there will be very few that we know it cook Stephens trip.

Trev:

Get it? I get it. Yeah. Yeah. There's no, there's no there's drip. dropped off. Kind of. Yeah. And it's not like a kind of flash support. You know, in a lot of sports. You get this flash posers. Ah. So, yeah, you don't get that you don't get like guy walking into like a tournament in his sunglasses with

shaun:

the golden. surprised to hear that you don't as a rule, if he were to walk into a speech tournament was going on? You guys be naive to say that. Yeah. It's it's just, you know, a rich and diverse cross section of middle aged men society, right. Except I think, yeah. Eric bahagian was the exception because he, not only was he very good, but he was also a bit of a poster boy of solutio. In the

Trev:

late 90s. Yeah.

Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.

Trev:

You can see now, look this guy up. Yeah. Good afternoon, but

Wayne:

I died down a very small amount as the same as all the other podcasts. We do have research on them. So beauty, and I found a video of a World Cup. I think it was quite a few years ago. And it was something of Scotland versus well, Sean, I don't know if you're familiar.

shaun:

I remember the one that you told me.

Wayne:

Yes, right. Yeah. And he did. He seemed quite tense. And I don't know if they were taking it serious. Is that serious? That kind of intensity?

shaun:

Absolutely serious. Yeah. Because I think at the end of that shot, you're talking about what it ends up with. I think it's the Welsh fella, who I think his name is Karl and and he scores and he shouts out justice and Yes, that's right. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, that's what that is quite famous. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely serious. And yeah, I mean, in Malta, it was a professional sport at one point and people yeah. People had had sponsorships and a living out of it.

Wayne:

Wow. good amount of beer.

Trev:

You get crowd violence. Who know you know sometimes what is coming up Move on.

shaun:

Occasionally, you might get family members of the players falling asleep and

Wayne:

we've gone over it here, but we've put a lot of his life into tray. Oh, yeah.

Trev:

Yeah, we all really kind of Yeah. All right. Sorry. Apologize.

Wayne:

For anyone who's listening who is still into this abuser, we apologize. But I do if you listen to our other podcast, you'll know what we're about.

Trev:

You know, I found it quite hard to actually believe that it was taken that seriously. So if you have any offense, it's all on me. Yeah, it's

Wayne:

right to him at sunset.

Trev:

I'll give you his address.

Wayne:

But, no, so you take this apart? Do you still play Shawn?

shaun:

I don't play at the moment I enjoyed.

Trev:

Boundaries. fingernails.

shaun:

Explain off tightwad. Oh, okay. Yes, sir. Thank you, sir.

Wayne:

Sorry, if I'd known him if I was I wouldn't have asked the question.

Trev:

Do you want to? Do you want to get back into it, though?

shaun:

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. At some point.

Wayne:

Yeah. Hopefully some people are listening and they want to play somebody who has played the number one player in the world was experienced. Yeah,

Trev:

yeah.

Wayne:

Then get in touch with us at www dot mlo podcast.com. And the little blue microphone sign, leave us a message, we'll put you in touch with Shawn, because it will want to. I'm taking it for granted. But it may be a way to keep in touch

Trev:

shows by our A B outline it so they get in contact. And we're we're not we

Wayne:

won't give your personal details. Don't worry. We're not that nice like that loosen? I don't know You obviously, hopefully, you've listened to the podcast before shows. And we have a segment called test Trev. And we've changed that for season two, as people will be aware. And we now call it test the guest and we're hoping you wouldn't mind taking part. I'd love to excellent. And he is the new Jenkins for it.

Unknown:

Test, test, test the guest test guest.

Wayne:

So I hope you didn't escape, Shawn, but

shaun:

some jingle

Wayne:

jingle is probably professional.

Trev:

We're not talking about music this season. We've got it. We've got it. I'll tell

Wayne:

you what Shawn was so comprehensive was introduction to CBT. I was actually asked one of the questions already in

Trev:

that one, then a brilliant

Wayne:

production would have a backup question already ready to go. But we're not we're not professional. So I'm just going to ask it. I think I'll ask that question to Trev. And he should have been listening when you said it so it'd be quite fun

Trev:

to tension outside now

Wayne:

but I'll start with shoulders. I've got a question. That's not I mean, not being funny for the knowledge he's got he's kind of struggle with this but hopefully give the people some background knowledge as well. So question one, two usual. So beauty Oh was originally to be called a table flick football. So I don't know why I'm laughing. That's not funny. Table flick football. Be football crazy. See, hobby, or D football collector?

shaun:

Well, any self respecting WTO fan would know that Peter Adolphe the inventor. He might have listened anyway. He was a very keen birdwatcher, and he wanted to, you

Wayne:

know stuff. Yes,

shaun:

he wanted to call it the hobby, but for trademark reasons he couldn't. So of course, the hobby is Falco's tribute to the bird. So that's why oh, my God,

Wayne:

I was gonna give that backup information and you've done it. You actually give the backup information with the with

Trev:

the answer. Mobley is probably one of the most concise answers. We can't

Wayne:

believe it is reading my screen.

Trev:

My haze after you show that is incredible.

Wayne:

Yeah, the thing is Sean's actually in that answer as answered about three of the questions I was gonna ask. So now, it's a test of whether Trump's been listening. So, right, good. Second question to Trev. So BTO is derived from the Neo scientific name, which is a bird of prey known as the raising you in the hobby? Sorry, that was the answer. Sorry. I'm giving you the bloody answer. That's an outtake. Sorry. I don't know what I'm doing now. See what's happened? was somebody come on and knows all the answers? I can't can't deal with it. Sorry. Next question to Trev. I don't want to do the creator of CBT owes nice walks. And I was really careful about how I done the questions here except for a confused people. So I was it Philip Hitler. Was it? was it was it a filius? fridge? Oh, come on.

Trev:

Please.

Wayne:

Well done. In QA, I can't ask us to note because he's already answered that. So I'm gonna go to the next one. He's already answered that as well. Oh, my God. Basically, this whole segment is

Trev:

shown. I've just asked me a question.

Wayne:

And answers the five questions. We wonder the question answers, we wonder the questions. So I need to I've got one more question. For sure. deshawn can actually answer that as he actually mentioned. And then I'll go back and ask you. So I'll give Shawn this one. Which of these other sports has WTO sets available for it? Is it basketball? Is it hockey? Is it Showtime? Is it ice hockey? So you I don't know. I'm laughing I'm just trying now. He's having some dramatic effect to it.

shaun:

Because you haven't included the obvious.

Wayne:

No, I didn't include the one you're thinking I know.

shaun:

That's that's good question in their way. Thank you. I'm gonna go hockey.

Wayne:

He was never in doubt. But I'm glad I like the kind of strip tenseness you put

Trev:

out. Yeah, thank you. The obvious one in cricket, or

Unknown:

cricket

Wayne:

and rugby. Yeah, they were the other two I'd be editor if I left them out because it was

Trev:

a cricket guy swimming, called Test match wasn't there?

shaun:

yet. It was Test match winning very quality trap. We don't like to talk about snobbery

Trev:

on it. I mean, how does that work? Well,

shaun:

in the past, because, because there was a spoof advert to swimming. Obama really,

Trev:

and I can I view this somewhere later on.

shaun:

On the interweb you'll find it.

Trev:

I'm looking forward to jeeps trip?

Wayne:

Check. I've got another question. Yeah. You've got another question. You need. This is already Sean's already answered this in one of his elaborate answers. So. So do you is is a test of your ears again. I need to prove you wouldn't have been in set 17. So when? When were the first WTO sets made available? Was it 1922 1961 1947 or 1955?

shaun:

Colin Trev focus

Trev:

has been mentioned 1922. Can you give him

shaun:

nicely what you've done? What you've done there is you've confused new footy, which was a table football game produced by William Keeling in 90s. Trying to save you now. He didn't he didn't trademark that. And Peter Otto subito. In 1947.

Wayne:

You knew that? Yeah.

Trev:

Yeah. So you can see where I was going wrong, then you can?

Unknown:

Yeah, yeah.

Wayne:

I can see money sliding under the table.

Trev:

Yeah, I appreciate you digging me out. It's very good.

shaun:

I've done this for you all my life trip.

Wayne:

I don't think we're gonna have such an elaborate questions in our test test the case ever again. And I'm going to have to spend a bit longer doing my production for the quiz for now. Most of them in the first place. Where does the name derive from what the word the creator's name the Latin Neo Latin, which is the bird of prey known as the raising hobby and the ACA Join his armies. I'm impressed to be fair. But just to sort of sum up, I suppose. I've sort of in my basic research, which obviously doesn't work as we can see, and I found out that subito started dying a death when computer games started taking off, Shawn it would you say that's true?

shaun:

Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Because, you know, and we probably saw that ourselves. Yeah. Why would you get out CBOT pitch, I get it all set up, get all the players, we can just turn on you that expectrum. And it's all there for you. Cool. So yeah, you can

Wayne:

basically from a computer game a lot simpler, easier to then the game. Is there anything you'd like to know as a summary? drove better beauty

Trev:

myself, and there was never a computerized version of it? Was there never a computer guy associate recipe? Do

Unknown:

you call it simulated though? It was.

shaun:

I think there was true. Yeah, but it but it was never

Trev:

know. But I can just I can see it. Yeah, it might work. But it can see it wouldn't work as well. I don't completely understand. So really, what we're saying is FIFA has taken over from Serbia. Really? Yes. Yes.

shaun:

Well, that's that breaks my heart to hear it. But yeah, it does really

Wayne:

mean the thing is, you mean you've just broken it to trade? I think you knew that already.

shaun:

But what you just said that? I believe?

Wayne:

Is there any people that are listening for their serious passive beauty? Oh, is there any resources for people that maybe want to get involved now that you would recommend?

shaun:

Yeah, so there's a national organization, the English serbisyo Association, you can if you just Google them, I think they have a list of clubs on their website, and you should be able to find one, you know, fairly local. And, and, you know, just just just go along, you know, I mean, in my experience, all the tournament's all the clubs I played in at once get really friendly. And yeah, yeah, it just go along and enjoy it. Lovely. That's brilliant. Shawn. Thank

Wayne:

you. Very lucky for that. And it's been fun as well. And we, we thank you for joining us today and giving us your bedroom.

Trev:

I do apologize to actually the people. Yeah,

Wayne:

take me seriously. You know what we're up to?

Trev:

You. We know. There's no offense, man. No. Because obviously, Shawn took it very seriously. Yeah, it's just because you said a completely different world. Yeah, me now to what I was when I was a kid. So no offense meant by and it's been a really entertaining episode doing it. Yeah, it really has. Excellent. Thanks for joining us today, guys.

Wayne:

Cheers.

Unknown:

Thank you very much,

Trev:

Shawn.

Wayne:

Thank you. What I found that really interesting Trev I mean, there's a few bits there that were quite shocking to me. And obviously, Sean's played at a very high level. What did you think?

Trev:

Yeah, he obviously was definitely a good player. And he must have a really good temperament because that Dutch guy if he would, if he would, if he took the Michael out of me like that plane left handed and showered off, he would have just got punched in the throat. I don't care. I don't ride it would have been like the day and

Wayne:

I would you know,

Trev:

he would have got one in right in his chest. To be honest. I sure must have taken that really well. Yeah. Is it that that's just that's just taking the Mickey on it? Yeah, really play left Andy because like

Wayne:

when he was a pinup as well as what he's had it all goes on.

Trev:

David, David Cassidy was the PR Andre afflicted kick get to know now that might

Wayne:

get back in your clubs in

Unknown:

a saga.

Wayne:

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Oh, come on, and justify yourself.

Trev:

And by the way, we're not having a pulpit all the Dutch nation now. Now we've got your calls. All of you have just one. But yeah, just one particular show. What was his name? On the gear? Yes.

Wayne:

It couldn't be a unique Kabbalah from that one.

Trev:

Vain world geek.

Wayne:

But yeah, I find a lot in that I find it really interesting. subject. Lots of beauty, so much to it. And I didn't realize it was obviously played so seriously. So thank you very much. Yeah, I

Trev:

did to be honest. Yeah. You know, I had a bit of background on that. I know how serious they take and stuff. Yeah, great. I know. To be fired the room, I'd probably take it up again. Yeah, I really would. Because you'd have to sell some trainers first. Yeah, and to be honest, I think my advice would be to team would probably My bad and my real team in real life who used to be? Well, obviously, I'll probably be spurs again. They'd probably I'd probably mean, literally bad it might might disburse up it would probably be better than the Spurs team in real life.

Wayne:

I thought you'd have Birmingham. But

Unknown:

sorry, that's,

Trev:

that's just heritage Yeah.

Wayne:

Now is it really enjoyable? I just I don't think I'm going to be looking out for the boat sales

Trev:

salesman is the room if I had the room, I'd do it,

Wayne:

I would go back into it. And as always, if you've got any questions, any one that we can pass on to Sean and he'll answer them for you could visit the website WWW dot mlo podcast.com. We're always looking to hear from you. Or if you want to be a guest at some point, you've got an interest or something want to come on and discuss. We'll talk about anything to be honest. We'll we'll give you a landscape to put your your hobby across. So please get in touch. So yeah, thanks for listening.

Trev:

All Time.

Wayne:

Yeah, full time and no injuries. So we'll we'll end it there. Thanks, Trev. And I'll see you on the next. Bye Bye, everyone.

intro:

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Shaun Allison

Guest: All About Subbuteo

Shaun is a Head of School Improvement for a Multi Academy Trust and Director of Research School, based in West Sussex England’

He leads on CPD and is interested in supporting teachers to grow and develop their classroom practice.
His blog can be read at:
https://classteaching.wordpress.com/

Shaun has kindly given his time to the A Midlife Less Ordinary Podcast in order to talk about his passion for Subbuteo, the football orientated flick to kick football games that was popular for many decades. Shaun has played Subbuteo at a very high level, even playing the number 1 in the world at the time, but you will have to listen to the podcast to hear how that turned out.