June 13, 2021

All About Cycling - Blazing Saddle Sore


Transcript

intro:

You're listening to a mid life less ordinary, the weekly podcast giving you the lowdown on becoming a cool older dude. The good times are not afraid of memory, it's time to start loving them again. And here are your hosts Wayne and Trev.

Wayne:

Hello and thank you for joining us on another journey with a mid life less ordinary and this episode is entitled all about cycling, Blazing Saddles saw and the person sharing my tendon today is of course my compadre Trev I am and have we got a big saddle. Oh do yes. is big enough

Unknown:

to bring it up. That's good because yeah, I don't want to get saddled. So the saddle sore is not good. No. Is it any tips for saddle soreness? Vaseline Petit chokes, I believe Well, yeah.

Wayne:

There's a true conception that people on cycles where a lot of lycra lycra is good it's comfortable stretchy, stretchy, cetera you chose that word and think times changing turn around touch the ground and all that. But yeah, sorry, I forgot I'm 50 Yeah, I mean, I've got one of your old bicycle trail bikes. Yeah, I've got one mounted but it wasn't was that the old it was like it

Trev:

was in good Nick is how to use it. And I remember I think I said that on I was a sucker for all the safety things because I didn't want to get run over so take me longer to put all my stuff on it would actually take my bike out.

Wayne:

Yes, I can believe that. Yes. I usually like a social worker guy to work so I destiny oppression I got I mean, you from what I remember you're quite into that whole scene at Mountain Bike sort of snow balled in even though you didn't do it, you

Trev:

know all these gnarly, gnarly lifestyle. Exactly. But the weird thing is, I thought I was gnarly. But I was too scared to do a lot of

Wayne:

No, and I can understand that to be honest. Not because you're a scaredy cat or anything. I just mean like, it's a scary world out there. But yeah, I bought your bicycle. And I remember when I bought your bicycle, I thought I was really serious. And I remember this is, you know, in my single days, I was I was speaking to somebody online. He wasn't Eugene polikoff. But I was talking online and I remember saying no, they were saying what you into Notting Hill, you got to make yourself look interesting. So yeah, I'm riding a bike, which is true. I was doing this wasn't nice to ride along the seafront. Did you used to ride it when I used to live in Southend on sea like yourself, you know, not down the pub. There's a cycle lane on South End. So for people that don't know Southend on sea, there's a cycle lane that goes the whole seafront probably about four miles? I don't know. Exactly. And I lived near the seafront. I used to love just going up and down the seafront in the sun nuber vest, you know, getting a tan basically is lovely lifestyle. No stop at the pub on the way back and

Trev:

most people take up cycling to get healthy. And you're and you're cycling at about four or five pints. Yeah, yes.

Wayne:

But you know, I'm kind of feel like I'm earning them by doing the free mind trip. I

Unknown:

don't get the equation here. Because you'd probably burn what how many calories cycling?

Wayne:

I'm not doing that many to be honest. But I mean, yeah, exactly. It's probably about 500 calories. And I'm drinking six pints of Guinness, which is about 1800 calories. Yeah, but I was trying to bulk at the time. But But yeah, that was tying to this. I remember saying to somebody on one of the dating sites that has sadly frequented at that time. Yeah, I'd like cycling, you know, because that sounds kind of keep fit. You get out there and they said, you're out there. And they said, Are you a mammal? And I was like, it was a memo, a mammal? And I said no. And I said, What's that? And I said a middle aged man in light crowns. Yeah, not really. I just wears like, cheap tacky pea wear. But, you know, I didn't like that term. So that's obviously what he's told. That's why I see cyclist. What do you think?

Trev:

I'd like people to actually message us and say what is acceptable for a middle aged person to wear on a bicycle?

Wayne:

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It depends on

Trev:

tracksuit bottoms and trainers. And it used to be that yeah, that's Yeah. That's cool. But as you know, we were in jeans because no comfortable is it? No, but you don't want to be like serious if you're not that good it in like her and stuff. What I think really, what if it's a summer show because you can wear shorts and I would have thought the best pair of shorts to wear would be like cargo.

Wayne:

Yeah, that's exactly what I used to wear. Can

Trev:

you keep your wallet? Still, and they're quite comfortable on that? Yeah. So I suppose that would be awesome.

Wayne:

I mean, that's, that's my experience of cycling a few miles down the seafront. And to be honest, I do admire but they're saying, I've got such a strange affliction. I don't like to feel that I'm holding cars up. And I'm going to mention this to our guest today. Our guest today, by the way, is Cole Porter is a British cycling qualified coach. And he's also specialised in the mountain bike coaching. He's also the chairman of the Hadley mountain bike club, and the Hadley mountain bike club. Is the 2012 Olympic legacy, basically, where the Olympics mountain bikes were held. Yeah, so yeah, Carl was coming on. And I'll ask him about this. But you know, when I'm, I must admit, and I'm one of these people, when I'm in my car. And, you know, obviously I live, I have to drive 10 miles around the stakes, to get to any kind of lifestyle game to like, kickstart around the seat pervious now in some sort of scramble, but now I have to I live in the stakes and driving it, I have to drive 10 miles before I can see any life. And if I'm driving out and there's a cyclic, they love these roads that I live near and imagine and they're there, it doesn't get on my earth as a little bit when they're standing right there. And I can't get past and I'm sort of sitting there and I'm going to ask Carl about it, you know, I'm guilty, I don't drive up there, or give him space and everything else like you should. But it you know, I can understand as a promoter as a car driver, and that you see both sides of it. I see both sides of it, because I'm a mad scientist as well. So, obviously, you know, I see that side of the vulnerability of being on a bike as well. Yeah.

Trev:

See, I don't when I was cycling a lot, I used to kind of hop off the road onto the pavement. Awful. I would die. It was just deadly. And no one wants to see a grown man cycle on the pavement pressed out there they can is dangerous. Yeah.

Wayne:

But I think it's still the best option for most of us the way our eyes. lines are important, I suppose, isn't it? Yeah, I think that's the way forward, isn't it? I mean, they're doing it in London. I mean, we can all moan about it. They're cutting down the space for the cars and everything else in the pedestrians. But I think you know, you go to Amsterdam, for example, you would know this trend that is cut. There's bikes everywhere. Not talking about the red light district. I think we've got to go back next week. But I think it's I think we will ask all these questions, because basically, we don't know enough about cycling to pass it on to you anyone. Exactly.

Trev:

Yeah. So and I am interested in what what you could wear. But because you know, if you were attracted to bomb does that make you like a chair on a bike?

Wayne:

I don't know. This is why I've got a lot of questions about this. Because Cycling is such a big pastime for a lot of people as I find that there's a lot to learn about it. So yeah, I'm gonna call my my questions into cow and see how we get on. So with no further ado, we want answers. Yeah, phase one and how come and give us these answers over to you, mate. Cow, thank you for joining us today. You are the chairman of the handily mountain bike club. Is that right?

Carl:

It is indeed. Good evening. Hello.

Wayne:

Good evening. Welcome. Welcome. And you are a coach, a mountain or just a biking cycling coach cow. Is that true?

Carl:

I'm yeah, I'm level two British cycling, qualified cycling coach, but also with specialism in mountain bike as well.

Wayne:

Okay, wow, that's qualified. It's

Trev:

gotten quite involved in this in my early 20s call. I've never known a coach to do it. I think that's great. To be honest. The idea did you start the audit each day quite a few of you guys around that do around the country in that

Carl:

there's quite a few around the country is a lot of cycling coaches. And you can actually then once you've done your qualification for cycling coach, you can then pick a specialism. You can do cyclocross, you could do mountain biking, you could do road cycling, road racing, and sort of going in that direction.

Wayne:

Yeah, brilliant. Not so I'd love to have done it when I was into it. I really want to die. And and the Hadley mountain bike club cow is the legacy from the 2012 Uk Olympic little London Olympics of new he was the mountain bike and was held in in Hadley where we're which is about 40 miles from London, isn't it?

Carl:

Yes, it's about five miles in South End and 45 miles in London. And had your mountain bike club was kind of born is the latest thing from the Olympics to actually get more people into mountain biking and out there cycling and younger people back into mountain biking as well as this sort of a lot may have seen it from the area and stuff and thought call tends to go up there and sort of get get them out there and actually enjoying themselves in the fresh air. Cool. Did you actually did you watch the Olympics, your club I didn't know it's funny 2012 I was kind of just the i was i was psyching yourself but didn't know about how the mountain bike club and then I found the club in 2014 Believe it or not and then qualified as a coach in 2017 when both my kids decided to actually start coming along and enjoying the Nina's in the kids dolphin they both ended up racing through it and what have you as well so I kind of ended up doing sessions called go ride and just helping out with those which was mini coaching session simply because it's gone now gone I just gonna

Wayne:

say it's been a good coach like you are level two is that like a part time job or is that like a vocation if you like something you just love to do and you do it for the love of it basically,

Carl:

I do it for the love of it now To be honest, but there are people out there that do it as a full time job you can go up the next level up income 50s whereas level two is all about techniques and stuff like that level three income seat fitness sessions and stuff like that into it as well which is more focused on sort of athletes as it were rather than just people that want to go out and learn how to ride properly and actually deal with this kind of terrain the dating the local Woods door trail seem to go anywhere like that.

Trev:

That's a bit odd because I've got like a part time job like that mark on a job on like a kind of part time beard model.

Wayne:

You are You are infectious he No

Carl:

no, no. You are a villain. That's what

Trev:

no one believes me. It's a modelling job for me. You can tell you can tell. Take it further. Which is something you've always been interested in Charles, where did where did it start for you?

Carl:

psychiatry and I've always written a blog when I was a kid. Even even at the age of eight, nine when the mom would be going shopping other was being open I bring my bike and I'd ride the bike and disappear right off the off the road and then turn around the ride back to me mom and what have you. And because she didn't drive so we walked everywhere and listen, unless it was bustle trying to wear heavy stuff. So then as I got older, I used to live in North London quite regularly summer holidays and stuff like that. Me and my best mate. It ended up disappearing off on bikes into the central London riding around for the day or well. Jesse days when when drivers didn't actually want to kill every 30 on the road. Curious, would you do that job call not I wouldn't have done back in that day. But I wouldn't now know. They take their lives. You know, rains out there didn't like that they also ride like lunatics as well, that helps the trouble with it. So bear in mind.

Wayne:

So actually, you say in that car. I've got a test. It led me to another question I was thinking of, and it must be just a reflection of me Really? I don't like the reflection of me before Trev says St. Mary's Yeah, I've got no mirrors here. But it's I was gonna ask like, as a cyclist? What What would you like to say to drivers? I know you're a driver as well, obviously. But what do you say to drivers who basically complain is the polite word about cyclists. So holding them up in the mornings on the country roads, what do you say to them people

Carl:

come and go and stand on the platform of the train station. And you know what that yellow line is on the platform? Don't stand in front of that when there's a train going through. Yes, go insane Dini and then see see how it feels when that train goes through? Because that's what it seems like when a car go past you on a bike.

Trev:

That's a great metaphor. You're bang bang on their car because that's exactly what it feels like.

Wayne:

Only because you don't drive. Go stop having to go ask drivers

Trev:

call because I think you're sort of similar age to myself and why not? 21 Yeah, yeah.

Wayne:

Oh, here we go. Free mumps. Free mumps he goes on about it is is he some sort of young vixen or something you know.

Trev:

I'm 45 and I'm still young. Oh, you are? Yeah, yeah. Do you want to pull this off BMX? Boom, were you into that kind of thing? Because a lot of guys I knocked about with were really into guys like Matt Hoffman and stuff like that. It was something you were into or not. Yeah.

Carl:

I kind of never really took much notice of people riding and stuff. But I went to my first proper proper bike that I was like, wow, was a really super burner. Really? Yellow. Gold. Gold. Yeah, gold and black. But I was always a bit disappointed because I want you to run the mag burner, which was this is a super burner, but with the black mag wheels, he said, spoked wheels.

Trev:

You know, I really wanted I really wanted a diamond back or poach Mario,

Wayne:

I had a pooch married. Yeah. It was the only thing you've probably heard call. Trevor's had everything he's ever wanted in life. He just got it when he was a child. And I didn't. I didn't because I got ya. Brilliant. Okay, I'm just shutting up. I can't be that. I'm moving on. Yeah, so well. So how would you encourage people who wish to take Um, there's a lot of people, we've been encouraged now to take up cycling as a nation, not let alone just individuals, because obviously the green aspect, health aspect, exercise, everything else? How would you encourage people to get on a bike and pedal basically,

Carl:

if anybody if, if you rode this bike as a kid, even now, you'll still remember how to ride a bike, you don't forget how to ride a bike. Literally, exactly. It's just like riding a bike. But the best thing you can do is even if you don't want to go and do the local woods and stuff like that, and get muddy and dirty and just want to ride on the road. Actually, one of my friends from the from the mountain bike club is actually a cycling instructor that works for the council. And you can find the council get in touch with them. And you can actually get what is essentially a cycling proficiency now, and even as an adult, you can go out with one of them as an instructor, and they will help you be more confident to ride on the road, teach you about positioning on the road. And also so actually, there's as well as me being a mountain bike coach and a cycling coach. Actually, there's people that can help you do that. If you only want me to go and ride around the roads and go shopping on your bike sort of thing. You'll feel more confident.

Unknown:

Those those cycling proficiency tests. We used to add those at school. Yeah, we did. Yeah.

Carl:

Yeah. Yeah, we did. Yeah, yeah. It's called bikeability. Now

Trev:

about it's a bit more up to date. Now they've gone down to the rap

Wayne:

generation is like, What's his name? we bounced back abilities. bikeability was his name. It used to be the manager of sorry, Crystal palette. I've gone off on one but the manager of crystal down in Delhi, he said. He said yes. bikeability Japanese here. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm going right off the coast there. But he was he was Yeah. He shouldn't have any mirrors in his house. I know that. Yeah. It definitely is more of a model than me. I would have thought trophies guarantee your head. May you need to get your head out of Vogue. Yes.

Trev:

Call one. How many bikes or do you own now? Oh, yeah. Different bunch of road racing. And, you know, the mountain biking? What kind of thing Have you got at the moment? My

Carl:

my own personal collection? I'll call it a collection because the wife would probably divorce me if I bought another bike. You can messages in life? Yeah. Yeah, I said just got a bike that's a bit of a pub bike that I could just ride to the shops or whatever that To be honest, for the real, very rarely ride. I've got a road bike. And I've also got my mountain bike. But then if you can also add on to that the kids have got about a mountain biking and the missus got a mountain bike but it's actually gathered up because she doesn't ride the very often.

Wayne:

She's too busy making up for all the time you're outside clean coal, too, so you get some kudos points. Yes. That's why you come in cold Don't worry.

Trev:

called chill a dream bike wise. When I was if there was a match. If I was sitting in the dentist's chair there was a mountain bike magazine MTB used to be the one I used to get a mountain.

Carl:

Okay, or Yes, it

Trev:

used to be people are still up in it. Shawn Palmer, the downhill guide Yeah, if I was to tell you the bike I really wanted and I know they were kind of always because I come from a sort of a bit of a skateboarding background as well. crozes Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was it I think Yeah, yeah. Are they still was good now they still

Carl:

yeah they are sent a cruiser amazing bikes you've gotten the likes of Scott and correct and stuff like that.

Trev:

Actually down here. The bikes I had when I was in my 20s I had a white t is it Gary? Gary Fisher as well guaranteed issue as well Wow. Yeah. And again you fish in the last fight I had with wind blow off there was a specialised right yeah. I've ever been really into sort of specialised because the downhill guy Shawn Palmer used to write for them. And remember he wrote he wrote in his hand well mountain bike championship and he was my hero because he was Sly and setia when he was cycling the rest of him will light it up and he had like a sciency shell and I was like that he's like

Carl:

gone now he still only more baggy stuff and stuff they can move in whereas cross country riding is what is which is more or more has like had the design there is still about sort of the lycra for writing and stuff like that

Wayne:

Trevor's would be having the boat everything he does he just any other time he does it

Trev:

go for a run or you know kind of where normal kind of running shops and I always have a some form of like her on me but underneath you

Unknown:

Yeah, he just

Wayne:

likes Flashdance too much he just

Trev:

the other day Don't go there we go there we go. Okay, cuz we done it because we did that one in season one about the video the nostalgic films I couldn't help myself I don't throw a bottle of water over myself. Do isn't it? That's right. Yeah, but yeah, like this My thing I must admit.

Wayne:

And I've been here we go folks lessees admission, they say like crazy thing. So the car light cycle lanes and the future of like, it's amazing. Now we can go from like, be talking about like, or to being serious all of a sudden, and this is the podcast. I've watched a Sunday brunch. Sorry, going off Sunday brunch, but they do something similar with their technos sort of kitchen dances. It just happens in the middle of the show. And then they just get on with what they're doing. I think that's kind of been born from that but cycled a Sunday. Is that cycle lanes in in London, obviously, they're building a superhighway of cycle lanes. And obviously it'd be not. To be honest, even as a layman, I'd enjoy having cycle lanes because I must admit I'm very conscious of riding on the road and holding people up so much so that I'll go into the bushes just to escape it. And that sounds dreadful. Now I

Trev:

believe a word fatal about the bush. Hiding in the bush. bushies Mike Michael in public toy Oh

Wayne:

my God, I really reach a lower form of depravity in this episode. Do you really? I'm sorry, go. Yeah, I do apologise. No, I literally made I'm just a bit conscious of obviously holding people up so the cycle superhighways? They would do me a favour, but they'd have to be on all the country roads. To be fair, do you think there's a real future in them?

Carl:

I think they live in towns and cities. Certainly. It's something that they're not like our one on the seafront, because that is a nightmare. But, you know, in towns and cities, certainly because, yeah, I mean, genuinely, I'd have to recycle anywhere. You know, rather than take the tub most of the time, unless he's chucking it down with rain, and I'm not actually going in the European wherever, right? fair weather, etc. It's a barrel getting muddy and going out. And I'm happy with that. If I've only got to go somewhere. I'd rather get in the car, and then turn up so

Wayne:

yeah, that makes sense. Until kind of getting soaked. You're hopefully gonna get soaked in champagne after taking part in this next part of the podcast call because we've got a little surprise for you. As you know, in season one, it was test drive. And in season two, we have this segment called test the guest and then I'll just wait If you'd like to go up against Trev in a couple of questions about cycling, would you be interested? It will be a yellow jersey. You will be at the end of this. Yeah. A very cheap tight yellow jersey. Yeah. See him going through his drawers now looking for it. Yeah. So this is what we call the test the guests segment. Test Case, test, test case, test case. Lovely. So, yeah, just a bit of fun call. I'll go to you first. And now go to Trev always goes first guest guest always goes first and no pressure, no pressure. I mean, we don't expect the guest and they don't always get them right. Because I just pulled these from anywhere. Obviously, these questions and he's not listening. No, I mean, it does take me it takes me half hour of my time. You know, that's got to be at work. You know, it's what we wear something so that it's just a bit of fun. So, question one, two, you call in what year of the Tour de France? Was Chris Froome forced to run up Mont Venter? I wish. I wish I wasn't expected to talk French in this month's vendu venti sorry, you know this. I know. After after a crash. Was it a 2013? b 2017. See 2016 or de 2015?

Carl:

Oh, I would say 2017.

Wayne:

It was close. It was close, but not good enough. He was. I mean, that's a hard one. Because all the years are very close. It was actually do you remember this? Obviously from what you're saying? I

Carl:

do. Yeah, I remember it. I remember.

Wayne:

I remember the crash actually. That was made news, didn't it? Yesterday. Yeah. It was 2016 that was actually Oh, close. It wasn't easy, but

Unknown:

yeah, you might wind in like a mug because you couldn't pronounce that man. Yeah,

Wayne:

okay. Okay. You can ask my question to where he's a junior carbolic have right now if you're going to give me this sort of stuff. I'm going to make it awkward for you. Where is a worry? Yeah, it'd be back. Yeah. Okay. Right. The question to to you drove. What single rider has won the most stages at the Tour de France? Is it a Mark Cavendish be? Eddie mercs see Chris Froome. Oh, here we go. Or D Marios Kip n le or siprnet cipollini. Simply the old fish. Best of British Mark Cavendish Eddie Merckx, Chris Froome, or Marios cipollini I

Trev:

haven't got a clue. And the only reason I'm gonna go with Eddie mercs cousin at dow.

Wayne:

No, this can't happen. No. No, no. No. To quickly moving on to number free call, please. Oh, no, I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I didn't I didn't as you can imagine. I don't want to have to get any right. It's a nightmare when it happens. Number three, Carl, what percentage of commutes are made by bicycle in Amsterdam? Is it a 15%? b 90%. c 40%. Or d 20%. That's not easy is it gotta be gotta be 90% over 90. Really? Like dude. Yes. Wow, that's that would be like, I don't want to do this too cold. It makes it sound I've made and then now I says I've loaded especially as you knew the SEC, I wish I'd done it the other way around. But he said I mean, to be honest. Again. That's not an easy question. Because when I go to Amsterdam, all I see is bikes everyone sees bikes. Yeah, but I was gonna say I'm not in that part of the town tray. If that's true if that's your I don't even know what you're talking about. But he was saying 40% which I still think he's very high obviously.

Carl:

Yeah, I would I would you agree Not likely. Yeah,

Wayne:

exactly. But it is Yeah, he is a very hope that we had that way soon. I just hope he's gonna get this one. I'm going to change questions around, I'm going to change I'm gonna change cuz I know he's gonna get I'm gonna change the questions around. So there's obviously if I can get it car or get it. Now that's what I'm saying that's what I'm changing the question because you're going to get the next one. And I just realised looking at that, I think you'll get that but it was for a specific reason. There's nothing to do with cycling, but I know you'll get it. I just know because I know you. I know you'll get it. So I'm going to ask you a different question, which I'm hope I've got one in four chance that you get right and hopefully you'll get it. Not that I wish you any malice obviously. Question.

Trev:

No

Wayne:

question five. Maryann Voss is one of the most successful cyclists in history with two Olympic gold medals, which he did she win her first Olympic gold medal. Was it a 2016? Rio? b 2008. Beijing? See? 2012 London or de 2000? Sydney? I is a bloke Yeah, I would recognise this woman if a bike curated into me as far as crossing the street. Oh, no. This has never happened. It's actually been ruined. Test Trevor test. The guest has been ruined by Trevor. Whereby yellow jersey with his knowledge of cycling. That's Jeremy is just in full. On I tried to fix it. He and I still couldn't get it right. Oh, dear. I'm so sorry, Carl, this has never happened before. This is a first we'll learn from our mistakes here. We'll just we'll just have questions moving forward. They don't actually have an answer. But unfortunately, I've still got to go to question four, which was the one I was going to ask Trev which I'm sure you'll get right but who first invented tires use an inflatable tube of sheet rubber, which led to the production of safety bike with his pneumatic tires. Was it john Kemp starley b john Boyd Dunlop. C Thomas Edison. Or D. Kirkpatrick. McMillan. It was Mr. Dunlop. Hey. Well, oops, I got two claps for that because I feel so bad. Would you record that trip? Y'all would have guessed it. I know. You would. That's why, you know, I

Trev:

was talking about puncture repair kits, right? Well, man didn't my dad didn't drive right. So he cycled to work every morning. And I tell you, what, is the heaviest bike Yeah, this old on such as what it was it was an old Warhawks bike. And he had a puncture repair kit on it that he had forever. And it was a nice little tinge. Do you remember these call the little Tim's? Yeah. Yeah, he's the glue. He has sat on it. And I'll tell you what, he would never go anywhere without that puncture repair kit. You know, now you've got bicycle repairman, and Monty Python. He used to remember because I used to cycle to work then. And I think I was on my Trek. And I caught him at the top of one of our roads coming home once riding home. And I've raced him, right because we saw each other I come on in, come on away Go. And I was in my early 20s. And he kept up with me. I thought maybe I was a bit of a fat lump thing. But he kept up with and when we got to our house, we both put our bikes down and we're laughing and joking about it. And he I think he went into a lot of a peddler or something. So I put the bikes away. And honestly, I found out my dad's bike was not the weight of a tank. And he still kept up with me. Must have been all that power. Cycling Yes, definitely. train car.

Carl:

I used to, I don't use when I was racing. I mean, I have obviously been pandemic. We haven't raced a good year in a bit. But I used to kind of not train but made sure I'm involved in at least two or three times a week if I was sort of during the season of racing. And I was never really fast and I was always at the back. But actually it was more about going out and enjoying it and having a bit of grassroots racing. You know,

Trev:

probably one of the most important things that we should ask you really cold to encourage people to get back into cycling because you know, I I'd like to get back into even I've just sold by bike, but I was quite a soft safety conscious when I used to cycle back and forward to work so I always wear a condom is one way of keeping dry? Yeah, yes true. Pregnant either on the wire well the funny thing is, he should take me as long to put all my gear on that he did to actually get to work. And if so I was going to take cycling up again, Carl, what would what would you say the best sort of what do you need safety equipment wise obviously lights.

Carl:

If you're if you're riding on the road and stuff realistically, you want a pair of lights, the road riding you want life to be sees Where is mountain biking, you tend to have lights to sit and if that makes sense, because you tend to go off into the woods and stuff even at night. So you want I mean, the lights I've got on my bike, I've got one that goes on the helmet, and one that goes on the handlebars. And actually, they're nice. They're almost as bright as a car headlight between them. Wow, really? I can actually yeah, I can actually see really well going through the woods and stuff survived in the bushes with the fine wine in the

Wayne:

encouraging place you

Carl:

know to go out and ride just sort of commute and stuff like that. You want to help me fish your you know, anyone that rides without one is a bit of a warrior. I've seen any, even my kids now look at people when they're riding along without one and go. Look, I like invisible helmet.

Unknown:

Yeah, we like that. So

Carl:

we're talking, you know? So yeah, I mean, the cars actually, if you do come off your bike for any reason, generally the first thing that's going down on the floor is your hands. Yeah, yes. So with a pair of gloves on, you're not going to rip your hands to shreds. This is true.

Trev:

I've still got kind of pairs of gloves I used to have back in the day because obviously I I think I've got a pair of Fox ones. And a pair Charlie designs over a big mic when I was into it.

Carl:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, I've got three lead designs, mountain bike knee pads, and elbow pads.

Wayne:

Really? Yeah, yes. bikers jackets as well there. Yeah. Trips trying to sell all this stuff.

Trev:

I don't know. I'm sure. The Troy Lee designs came from a company that sprayed helmets. Is that true? as well, isn't it?

Carl:

I'm not sure but I think you're right. Yeah.

Trev:

I think helmets in and stuff. Yes. But yeah, this stuff was funky as hell it was really I went a bike crow by 2002 or something. The the ADC I think. And yes, it was. It was a really weird experience because camel backs I think had just come out you know? No account. Bakkies? Yes Yeah, yeah, we were walking around this like, Big Conference Centre and it was like there was drinks that you could buy but there was loads of people walking very cavil backs on suck it out of them. Shoulder Yes, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Why is why he's confused. He doesn't know what Camelback is this

Wayne:

thing with women's trousers in it is like what kind of education

Carl:

What is that about? Yeah. Down to the gutter

Wayne:

what she's just getting revenge for all the other episodes sorry call for him. I do apologise. So to summarise So being a coach yourself, can we we're going to put some links up on the website and obviously for will do it for your own club. If If obviously, you're looking for new members, which I'm sure you are. Always Yeah, brilliant. And obviously being a co worker, is there a kind of UK National Association for for cycling or mountain biking, whichever one that people want to take part of.

Carl:

They're really you've got the British cycling website, which is www dot British cycling.co.uk. And you can go on there and find clubs and rides and races and coaches and all sorts. And then you've got obviously ourselves had the mountain bike Club, which you can find on facebook.com forward slash heavy mountain bike club.

Wayne:

That's brilliant. I'll put we're putting something on to the website car Thank you very, very much for your input today and for putting up with Trev. I know it's difficult, but you've done everything. Carl, you've you've, you've taken me back to when I was called in. Yeah, that was a long time ago. But he's made me think about kind of getting another bike to be Oh, here we go.

Carl:

Yeah, by Craven LTV, some coaches.

Wayne:

That's very kind of you call. Brilliant. Thank you so much for joining us today cow. It's been a pleasure. Thank you.

Carl:

Thanks, girl. Bye bye.

Wayne:

So now Trev I'm fully expecting you to be doing the old craft workshop on Tour de France. From breakdance and Electric Boogaloo Yeah, I fully expected you to come back in real really in the mood for your bike you know? I mean everyone's had a bike at some point in their life and they but sorry, I can I can tell where

Trev:

I only the places that we hung about and drug here. Sorry.

Wayne:

I mean, but everyone what I mean is is that we all learn to ride a bike at some point what what to what level is different, obviously. But

Trev:

yeah, yeah, again, I can see how people can get really into it. And to be honest, as Carl said, like cycling for fitness and stuff is amazing, isn't it? Yeah. You know, you really do benefit from it.

Wayne:

The old em exhaust fumes blow right into your mouth as he goes

Trev:

right along. Yes, very true. Very true. But that's the good thing about Asarco lines see that again we the cycle lines thing is great, but as a kind of very minimal runner. If I see a lie cycle line line, I seem to think that it's a running line as well. Which is ridiculous. Is it? What do I see? I do every time I go every time I'm running. I see a soccer line. I think that's where I should be. We should is running because that's dangerous. It should Oh, but how right how wide was the road be? You'd have a car right? You'd have a car line. A cycling lane a running line?

Wayne:

Yes. It's true. How many ladies do you want? It's true. It's not okay for everyone in here but you have gone okay if what can we just I mean yeah, yeah, the philosophy of road network I think we leave for a different podcast Yeah, it's there's lots of white Yeah, YouTube is true there should be room for everyone but I say I don't think I'm I really respect cyclists. So now I've got a lot of time for the fitness part of it. I can see you know what good he does you and the kind of view you can get some way they I mean, most of them I noticed from driving along naturally following him they're doing about 30 miles an hour they

Trev:

don't hang up on a flight Yeah, I really do here really if you're really good day, they are just like I mean this is faster the speed limit and they get up so early that night to go up as well. Yeah, exactly. It's just it's like you get you think wolf Hold on. Yeah. Really?

Wayne:

Don't think nothing of doing 60 miles I mean our drive 60 miles knackered you know it This is it. Yeah. Isn't it is so you've got total respect for it. So you know, there's all the information you need on maybe been a born again one or or start in cycling. You can have a coach that coach is a coach. All the information

Trev:

that I like about that is the confidence that would give you because I must admit if I got back on a on a bike now. I'd be quite worried about the safety side of it. Yes. Very much sighs Harry green off. QVC

Wayne:

Do you remember him? Safety first DIY saying Oh, sorry. No, I don't know where that come from. Sorry. I'm going off Neil Armstrong. Harry. Harry green. Sorry. Yeah. All the all these household names that you mentioned here. Yeah, that would so getting getting a coach to give you that confidence to get back. Yeah, cuz it's I when I was young and cycled I was terrible for like, jumping on the pavement jumping off the pavement to avoid traffic lights. Awful. Yeah, do you mean a pedestrians nightmare. And car drivers nightmare. I would just be kind of jumping all over the place. I thought I was that guy. And you maybe you should get those kind of gnarly careers like that. You're just a lot fatter. You're so self aware. So thank you for that. Yeah, cheers. But I already think cuz I cycled at a time now. That's true. Yeah, it does a very big fitness but Oh yeah. It will leave all the links to all the associations in the show notes. We hope you join in inspired you maybe to think about taking upcycling, as always we have all these hobbies that we're showcasing at the moment. You may be you know if you're lucky, you may see us in on the road on our bikes in a vest. If I can talk to having to wear a vest that is but

Unknown:

yeah, it doesn't very often but in No, no, no. You know, moves, moves.

Wayne:

Yeah, you know, I'll be hanging out, put them on display. It's all good. But so yeah, we'll put all the links on, please. When was c one, or C or six one. C they say that until the hour everyone.

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Carl Porter

Mountain Bike Coach and Mountain Bike Club Chairman

I am a british cycling qualified cycling coach also specialising in mountain bike coaching. I am chairman of Hadleigh Mountain Bike Club the club based at Hadleigh Park, part of the legacy of the 2012 Olympics. Dad to two monsters who also mountain bike boy and girl 11 and 14. I have a good knowledge of local and regional racing and can certainly offer advice about how to take up cycling or mountain biking as a hobby, even for us guys in midlife!