Jan. 31, 2021

How To Grow A Beard - A Chin Full of Win


If there was one specialist subject for Trev and you all had to guess what it is.......??????? Yes, this episode is all about beards. Wayne & Trev discuss why beards are still so fashionably trendy and why men grow epic beards to this day.

Trev gives his tips on growing a great beard and what products you should be using to procure one and as always they will (with obvious bias) decide as to whether having a beard is cool or not, what do you think??

Bullet points of key topics & time stamps:
Trev: 9:46

I had the goatee then obviously that got a bit and then the chin strap come in. I sported the chinstrap for ages bit of a noel edmunds going on.

Trev: 14:18

I think so. I think you've got our have your I think the misconception is big burly men should have a big beard. I don't really buy into that is very manly. And if you've got tattoos, there's a certain image that goes with it.

Trev: 26:33

Yeah, barbers do. But there are specialists guys that do beards and stuff. I wouldn't, I wouldn't trust I just an actual barber. There's no done beards before. But it's too tempting to do yourself. And I'll admit, I do cut some of the little curly bits. Because for such a straight haired guy, I've got quite a curly beard. 



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Transcript
intro:

You're listening to a Mid life less ordinary, the weekly podcast giving you the lowdown on becoming a cool older dude. The good times are not a faded memory. It's time to start living them again. And here are your hosts, Wayne and Trev. Yeah, Hello

Wayne:

everyone, and welcome to this episode called a chin full of win, which is I'll let Trev introduce himself and explain what that means.

Trev:

Right. Hello, everybody. Welcome again. a chin full of win that is about growing a glorious beard. A nice big as Jim broadbent says in hot fuzz a big bushy beard. And that's what we're going to be talking about to die not not one specific one, but about Jim Broadbent. Not just Jim Broadbents beard. I mean, that could be an episode, but we're talking about grooming male grooming. He got a beard and now I think he just described someone if you've got something that stands out like a big beard, I get that work. People are sort of a guy with a big beard. Yes. can't escape stuff. Yeah, this is true. Yeah. Because it could it stands out.

Wayne:

Even though it's the disguise of sorts.

Unknown:

And everything. Yeah, you can't get away. You can't kind of say Oh, no

Wayne:

man with a beard. Yeah,

Trev:

yeah, no, no, the guy what we've got a baby's only got a little goatee. So it's not like a psycho. You would be the one they're talking about. Yeah, exactly. So if anybody's anybody's got anything against me, like it as the guy with a big beard.

Wayne:

So this is Trevor specialist subject. And really, what we talk about first is a little bit of a history of beards. Not not just Trevs beard, but basically, I mean, my knowledge of it is that cavemen grew beards to keep warm I would say Trev would you say that? Yeah.

Trev:

Because they are. They are good for keeping warm. Yeah,

Wayne:

you get good value out of that dude. Yeah, I don't mean literally like you can't damage pounds. You're saving energy gold. Yeah, I still wear scarves and stuff. They're a bit more

Trev:

Yeah. awkward. Because obviously you've got to tuck it all because mine is long enough to fit in a scarf. But yeah, that there is a measure of how long my beard was getting that you'd put clothes on a T shirt and stuff you'd have to like um, pull out your beard at the neckline Yeah, that you know that that was like oh christ is not that long. Yeah, history of beards. Yeah, they must they must have been obviously I didn't have thought the technology of raised in warriors used to grow beards to look more manly basically. Thought so. Yeah, that sounds about right as well. It just looks Yeah, manly defined as we spoke on the last episode that you know, sort of intelligent, you know, you'd get with a local lawyer and as a main, you know, as a beard kind of virility. Yes. Yeah, that's funny. Another weird thing is I don't believe in any of this horoscope stuff. But I actually am a Leo and really kind of does sum me up with the amount of hair I had when I was younger. And now with the beard, so there is

Wayne:

you know, a poster or a Russell Grant on your wall No. Fridays but

Trev:

Butlins Ponting

Wayne:

He has been a bit quiet. So yeah, it beards have been worn by men for generations, for different reasons, or various to be manly to scare the opposing enemy. Or in Egypt, I believe it was a sign of wealth at one time. And spartans

Trev:

that's a style of beard, isn't it? Yes. Yeah. It was very Angular. very tall.

Wayne:

Trying I didn't make any times it's been used to show wisdom, isn't it?

Trev:

Yes. Intelligence. Yeah, exactly. Lots of Moses. Aristotle one. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, you're right with the old. What do they call them off? Can I think of the word prophets kind of thing? prophets? Yeah,

Wayne:

exactly. Yeah, I must think about growing one Trev because obviously I'm just coming across as a dumb piece of wood. With smooth skin.

Trev:

Why didn't Yoda have a beard? Mostly Jedi's did, most Jedi's have beards. That used to be wise and stuff. Yes, I'd have beards. such as qui gon and Obi Wan Yeah, exactly. That shows you Alec Guinness dude. Yes. He shows you that. That is how you know that's that that's that that's a mark of intelligence and wisdom.

Unknown:

Yes. Yeah, definitely. So

Trev:

if anybody has got the complete history of being I've probably got in a book books, which is actually quite interesting subject in itself, isn't it? Just sort of bring it on. Leave us a voicemail with the www.

Wayne:

memo podcast.

Trev:

I know. pretty small set of facts about beards for history. I know. I actually got my key ring. I've got like a beard coin. Yes. Which is like the right to wear a beard because you actually had to pay beard tax. It was just another way of extorting money out people. If you wanted a beard. You had to pay beard tax. Imagine that.

Wayne:

It cost you a fortune to spend on other stuff.

Unknown:

He can't afford to groom it because he taxed on it. So why do people why didn't Why did you grow a beard Trev?

Trev:

Basically, because once my hair, I'd cut my hair off. I want because I've had all styles of beards. I haven't always had a big beard my brother has forever had he grew out but you basically when you're growing a beard. I kind of grew in stages because it was really kind of quite fashionable in the kind of 90s that sort of grungy or just have a goatee, wasn't it? Yes. That was the thing to grow. And I was so desperate to grow a beard and a mustache. I think goatees were that were the 90s kind of version of the 70s mustache definitely. Yeah burt reynolds, Magnum p i. Yeah. That that was mainly because ever touch. I know a lot of the American army and police have just tattoos now case and the village people and the village people. Yeah. Yeah. Which is not so mad. Not manly. So

Wayne:

we're not going there this week.

Trev:

Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, so that was the thing. And I think that's the next thing. And then the goatees come in, and then it progressed from then and obviously. Now when you look at goatees, it's all very David brent, isn't it? It's all of Yes. Yeah, I grew up I got, so desperate to grow, get a goatee. I remember having kind of bum fluff, or that kind of like, Prince mustache. And I thought I think footballers massage was 11 years aside. Basically, I actually used my mom's mascara to color it. Did you look like Errol Flynn? Yes. Robin Hood, coming down from the bathroom. And my dad was like, What have you got on your face? It was just and the weird thing is I've never saw my dad with a beard or mustache. Really? No. Yeah, not my brother. Obviously. Full on have kept him for years. But yeah, neither not my dad didn't have a beard. Normally you find. You know, that kind of thingapparently runs in the family. Can't remember If your dad Keith ever have a beard. Yeah.

Wayne:

If you look at every single photo up until 20 years ago or so? Yeah, beard. I'd only knew him as a man with a beard, which is odd. Yeah. And it's really strange. Because when he shaved it off, I was about 20. Something like that. 20, early 20s. And I come home from school or school at 24. I was that far behind at school? from work? Come over. to redo that year, eight times. About I come come home from work. And people can tell that I'm that dumb To be fair, but But yeah, come from work. And he was there with no and I couldn't take him seriously. And he was telling me off at the time. And I was like you You're not my dad.

Trev:

He took me ages. I shaved mine off. Before I grew this big. And my wife was nearly in tears. She was like, Who are you? Uh huh. I really weird with our beard as well because I've got to have some form of facial hair. Because I just looked like a surprised balloon. Surprised this mouth I'm the male equivalent of a blow up doll.

Wayne:

I think you've only once isn't obviously I saw you when he was a school child in senior school. Only since we've been adults I've only ever seen you once. shave off your beard. Once in all that time you added the smaller beard obviously. But I mean once you come into work with no shaved a long time. This is 25 years ago or something. But yeah, but other than that, you've always had a beard. Yeah.

Trev:

I was the goatee then obviously that got a bit and then the chin strap come in. I sported the chinstrap for ages bit of a noel edmunds going on. Which was really hard. That was maintenance and having a big beard because yeah To get the line Yes. And that was a night yeah, shopping. And then obviously, I read in a band and in the music and all the grunge thing was at noon and our bands on white zombie and I decided to grow the the goatee bit up out of the front. So I had just a long wizardy bit at the front. And in the end you just look like a bit of a Tinker you look a bit like catweazle I kind of have always shaped it quite well, but in the end, you just think let's just let the whole thing go. And obviously it was a big thing to have a beard, you know, four or five years ago, three or four studies now. But um, yeah, and then obviously I got involved with the sort of grooming side of it. Yeah, with the beard oil and beard bombs. And, you know, I'm like any anything.

Wayne:

Anything you're into you to the enth degree you're into it. And

Trev:

that's funny thing is I've never ever grew a mustache or a beard for Movember. No, yeah.

Wayne:

Explain what Movember is?

Trev:

Basically, a month in November. The November month where people don't shave or grow or grow a really crackin mustache for charity.

Wayne:

And everyone looks I chose Atlas for him.

Trev:

He's good. Yeah, I do like the mustache look in an ironic kind of Freddie Mercury. Why? I don't think or kind of old cowboy. tombstone Sam elliot in the in The Big Lebowski. Or like Kurt Russell in tombstone.

Wayne:

You tell em I'm coming and hells coming with me

Trev:

I'll be your Huckleberry this year. Like a really good mustache. Yeah, no, it's like, if I ever do shave my beard off. I will look a bit like cutting your hair. They say that you should have it cut in it's got long hair cut in a mallet. Nobody's gonna say you lose your stream probably would lose. But yeah, yeah, basically I would shave it off and just keep the tash because I've got a very long Tash now. Yeah, the hardest thing of course growing a long time.

Wayne:

Oh my god. The diasters you've had with Guinness and things we can Oh, yeah,

Trev:

exactly. entropy is I use a device now. Called a mo guard. And the wonderful things I thought they were a bit of a joke. I think they were actually I was

Wayne:

that the one you use on the glass?

Trev:

Yeah, they're amazing things are you are used one at work for drinking tea and stuff. Because they just stopped getting in such a mess. Basically, I think they were devised from the old Victorian kind of when obviously the Victorian guys had really, yes, Trump had COVID mustaches and it would be inside the cup a little kind of level that you know, your your mustache sat on while you drunk so held it up. And some clever guys seen that and thought, why don't we make a portable and make them out of plastic to fit on? And yeah, I thought they're a bit of a joke. But honestly, they you know, they are a marvelous invention. You know, we definitely works because used to I mean, because at first when you grew the long mustache and beard you used to shave the mustache, didn't you optimize to trim it? But to be honest, it makes your beard look a bit naff if you've got a really heavily trimmed mustache. I get it

Wayne:

Yeah, cuz it does look cooler.

Unknown:

Yeah, if you've got a whole he's a real nightmare but you had

Wayne:

froth growing growing in it didn't you before.

Trev:

Now the stupid little things but it uses a bit of Tash wax in it not like really kind of old Victorian sculptured but just enough to kind of keep you keep it out your way I do that every day. But just now I was like Believe it or not buying in the cellar tape because I do some Christmas presents. And as you're buying it to cut it I can find a pair of scissors and you should never do that because like my age my teeth are falling out it was just sanitized with just sticking to my Tash and pulling the hairs at night me really is but it's worth it in the end because I my advice if you've got a really cool big beard and you're gonna trim mustache, persist with it and grow it out.

Wayne:

Is there certain people that suits better? I mean, obviously suits you, we know that but is there a certain type of facial shape or something?

Unknown:

I think

Wayne:

does everyone look better with a beard?

Trev:

I think so. I think you've got our have your I think the misconception is big burly men should have a big beard. I don't really buy into that is very manly. And if you've got tattoos, there's a certain image that goes with it. But I think I think the only thing is a bit like tattoos. If you're very very thin. It could look a bit wispier stuff. It doesn't seem to sort of fan out it doesn't grow go have a decent sized chin hence a chin full of win I think if you've got a small chin it can look a bit weaker with a beard which would be

Wayne:

nice yeah Going to looks too boyish. And then you've got a big beard, which is manly, it just looks a bit

Trev:

easier. So certain people wouldn't I don't think would suit a beard. I like to think I'm one of the lucky ones. It does. Yes, I'd like to be it. At this age, it covers up 8 chins of mine. Avoid that that's that's a good thing. Yeah. Then again, perhaps we get onto the techniques of sort of shaving and keeping your beard trimmed and stuff, which I do not very often, but I don't do it because you have to. But one of the biggest misconceptions with with guys growing beards is they shave their neckline too high. Yes. Because that ends up like a chin strap. And you just because it doesn't work, you've got to let it there's an old saying that women should marry a guy with a beard. who grew up growing a beard because the patients of growing a beard because it is so frustrating. Sometimes I look at my own thing. I could just get rid of this or shave it right away down because it just it's just a nightmare. But

Wayne:

the work you've put into it already makes it worthwhile.

Trev:

I've got a good beard but I've been involved in the circles I mean with you, you know there's loads of guys with better beards and have longer beards and stuff. That's very gracious trev what he said you can't do best you can't go where I've been. I've Amsterdam beard competitions and stuff like that. without, you know, noticing that. So it's a bit like anything, but you can't. It's very difficult, especially social media nowadays, to look at all these beard models. And they're being you know, they're they're so sculptured they're so good. That you think oh, you know, my beard had never looked like that. Take it as your own beard and fill out the hair thing we were talking about last episode? Yes, its own what you've got. Yes, I make the best, like the best of it. Because there's always going to be someone with a better beard than you there's always going to be someone with a bit attached in you. So a bit like with you with the bodybuilding stuff, there's always gonna be

Wayne:

you know, upset me today Trev by telling me that goatees are out of fashion because that's the only thing I can grow at the moment so

Trev:

I feel really sorry for some people just can't grow them. Some guys just can't not properly. Yeah,

Wayne:

I cannot go proper one. No, no, not like you

Trev:

know, it's not good. When you say, poor old some fellas are just that just the hair just grows in that sort of position. You're just gonna look like a woodwork change if you grow that out. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He was a good fella. But yeah, going back over to

Wayne:

Bob, maybe maybe I tell you what trev will give people a little bit of fun and knowledge. We have a couple of cash questions in test trev. And hopefully people can learn something along the way I've given you. I think I've given you a good passage this time, because you've got one question, which I'm pretty sure you'll get straightaway. And two multiple choice questions, which I'm pretty sure you get. So you'll feel good. You'll feel good about Test trev again. Okay, you know, I could give you the answers beforehand and make it even easier, but I don't really want to go down that road.

Trev:

You know, my emails before this. I would know. Exactly. And then maybe a little bit of pressure. Because you you there is pressure. Whoo.

Wayne:

Exactly. This is this is your subject.

Trev:

Yeah. So I'll be glad.

Wayne:

Well, it's time for test trev

Trev:

That the good guys who did that they had beards.

Wayne:

They definitely had big metal beards. So if you I'm I'm 99.9% sure you'll get this first question, but people might find it interesting. What is the meaning of the word pergonaphile?

Trev:

That's a person that loves beads or buy? That's exactly the definition of it. Yeah.

Wayne:

I say, yeah, a good answer. That is, yeah,

Trev:

again, I had to look that up years ago, but it's something that I see all the time now. Yeah.

Wayne:

So just to give you Yeah, sorry, it took me a while to find it, but

Trev:

I didn't really didn't really need the applause. The thing

Wayne:

is, I was gonna do the clap myself. But then I thought it sounds sarcastic. I'm just doing it on my own. Oh

Trev:

my god, this

Wayne:

is sarcastic. Yes. Spot on. So it's a pergonaphile, is a person someone who loves beards? is that it doesn't reference men or female male or female. Yeah, really good to be somebody who loves

Trev:

guys. Touch my beard and stuff like that. Yeah.

Wayne:

That's a grey area. Yeah. You don't like it? I can tell that because you

Trev:

gracious of it. And they asked you Yeah, if they just do it or tug on it. You don't tug on some lady's boobs.

Wayne:

In the 70s he was okay apparently.

Trev:

Apparently. Apparently. Yes. You Wouldn't you wouldn't just kind of, so I don't really know what gives people the right to think they can just touch it, you know? Yeah.

Wayne:

Yeah. Okay, so novelty or something. Yeah, just Oh, yeah. just ask , I was going Oh, do you mind if I if I touch it?

Trev:

Yeah, yeah, I agree. But

Wayne:

yeah, I have seen you get yeah get rather shirty with people

Trev:

tag on it. Yeah. Just pull on it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why would you do that? Again? Obviously,

Wayne:

they're just rude. pogonaphiles, obviously. But yeah, there's a context for the word for everyone. Yes. And pogonology is the study of beards. Yeah, so yes. ive done that? Oh, you're obviously you would? Yeah, you have to? And now you are the teacher? Yes.

Trev:

Watch now and he doesn't read anything anymore. Next question.

Wayne:

Is it okay? Yeah, exactly. You can carry on your study forever. And while you're growing. So question two is a multiple choice question trev to give you every chance. The rate at which a beard grows is genetic, but is also linked to what other division of the human male physiology and the art the possible answers are the rate of his sexual activity. Like the

Unknown:

rate,

Wayne:

you'd like to say that just now we really wouldn't go any further. Or the rate of his heartbeat? The size of his wisdom teeth, or the length of his nose?

Trev:

For some reason my instinct straightaway said wisdom teeth. I don't know why. He sounds ridiculous.

Wayne:

your one for the ridiculous truth. Hmm. Yeah. So yeah, the rate of his sexual activity, the rate of his heartbeat the size of his wisdom teeth? knows,

Trev:

that's gotta be testosterone, isn't it? Well,

Wayne:

I can't say at the moment until you give me your answer.

Trev:

Oh, god, I'm gonna go for potluck. I'm gonna go with wisdom teeth.

Wayne:

Ridiculous gonna go with wisdom to know. I think this this one? I think is that one we need? The lack

Unknown:

of your silence

Wayne:

answered your own question. You answered it correctly in in your Yeah, that is exactly because supposedly, the rate of sexual activity increases testosterone. And hence testosterone is linked to that how your beard grows? So it makes sense. You actually answered that to give BP fair, but I you know, you did say but I understand why you probably would go with was

Trev:

so ridiculous that it could be true.

Wayne:

So if you want to grow a cracking beard, just make sure you're active.

Unknown:

Basically. You have to have a partner. What

Wayne:

does that say about you? I mean, obviously, you're in a much better time than I am always.

Trev:

Do. You have to have a partner that depends on or can you

Wayne:

a good point? I didn't actually Delve that far into it. Yeah, do can you do it by yourself? But you're asking, Can I grow cracking beard when I'm single?

Trev:

Do another kind of meaning for the word cracking? One out.

Wayne:

I think this This podcast is just gone into the explicit section. The question for you the last question trev. In Roman days shaving rather than beards was the fashion. What did shaving represent? Was it a transition from boyhood to manhood, be the first time one cast a vote? c, enlistment to the army, or D to mark a contract of marriage

Trev:

seemed to be so good to see all the time is

Wayne:

the C in this case was enlistment into the army. Would you reckon a bit too basic though? Like basically sometimes good it was you know, testosterone, why am I saying anything?

Trev:

We say Oh,

Wayne:

they say listen into the army. beards in Roman times were grown to represent mourning. So if you went into mourning, you grew a beard. And no say they shaved it. Yeah. So now,

Unknown:

we've all learned a little bit. You don't want to hang around me too long there.

Wayne:

No, exactly. Yeah, do too many people die and you have to have everyone dropping dead every day to grow a beard like yours.

Trev:

It'd be awful. my best friends are Zombies. Yeah. Yeah,

Wayne:

exactly that. So yeah, so that's the end of test trev for this. Yeah, it was all right. So I think we should help help people you did. All right. I think you know, they keep it as multiple choice to be fair, because it actually is more people I think better for people to learn from Exactly. Yeah. So maybe we can help people now Trev. This is your specialty subject. So maybe growing A beard you've decided to grow beard?

Trev:

What? What?

Wayne:

What's the tips? How do you Where do you start? I mean, obviously you just don't shave for a start. But where do you go from there?

Trev:

Patience is the key. Yeah, loads of peak loads of guys grow into a certain length. And then they give up. I found I've never particularly got itchy skin underneath my beard. So I was quite lucky there but if you use beard oil on it straight away, you've only got like half a decent stubble and oily and obviously sometimes it might, might play with your skin a bit, but that helps it doesn't actually do it virtually anything for your beard. Basically it is for your skin underneath it. So that kind of helps the follicles and it will grow healthier, and it will take away that kind of itchy I found. Yeah, as I said,

Wayne:

How long does that go on for?

Trev:

dependents because obviously everyone's different genetically. Yes, peoples do. beards grow in different shapes different manners. I still obviously you've got to use beard oil all the time when you grow a decent beard is just part of the grooming process. But to the other thing you just will if you get stray hairs if you're going to trim it yourself which is very very dodgy you've got to be always best if you grow it to a certain length and it starts looking a bit hobo get it trimmed professionally

Wayne:

because you could barbers offer this sit now travel especially

Trev:

yeah course they did it to be honest. Yeah, barbers do. But there are specialists guys that do beards and stuff. I wouldn't, I wouldn't trust I just an actual barber. There's no done beards before. But it's too tempting to do yourself. And I'll admit, I do cut some of the little curly bits. Because for such a straight haired guy, I've got quite a curly beard. And and the bits especially the side guys always suffer with the sides. They just kind of flip out and stuff. Yeah, so it's nice to get those lines in. But if you are going to trim it, take the minimum off frequently, not frequently. But when you're trimming it, don't just hack lumps off. Because what you're doing is you're hacking up off one side, and you think oh, that doesn't look even then you're cut out another lump off there. And then it won't look even in the end. You just end up trimming it, trim it, trim it back. And all the gains you've got over those three or four months you've lost. So one go Yeah, you've just got to take the minimal off you can in those areas. And just slowly slowly catchy. Catch up, beard. Yeah, slowly slowly catchy beardy. That sounds that sounds cool. That is one thing. And you you were very adamant Trove when you grow and yours like you wanted a full a beard

Wayne:

rather than a point.

Trev:

Yeah, mine does point quite nicely now go to a certain thing. The other thing is don't shampoo it with normal shampoo. Once you've got a decent growth on use of actual beard shampoo especially because if you shampoo with normal shampoo, it takes out some of the oils and stuff like that. And if you if you got a really kind of dirty job you're in a construction or something like that, then you possibly will have to champion your beard every day but I only wash mine three times a week. Normally after I've like run or in the gym, and if you once you have shampooed it and you've washed it always put beard oil in afterwards. I leave mine like once or twice a week without anything in just to get the natural oils back into it. Yes I people they seem to think they're not this fallacy that people say and I know people can probably contact us and say oh it's been scientifically proven that beards are dirty on it I know I get quite a few bits and pieces here by just repeating yourself but it's as clean as my hair you honestly I keep this as clean as you keep it exactly that's a fallacy when people saw you know germs and stuff

Wayne:

not keeping your packed lunch in there also

Trev:

exactly is you know save it for later mate Is that what you're doing? Yeah. But yeah, but don't go over the top in the washing of it. You know and treat it and don't and if you're going to obviously want to get a comb get a D if you're going to get a brush get a decent boars hair one and if you're going to get a decent comb get a wooden one because if you get a plastic one you get static, which obviously isn't great for you for your hair. That's

Wayne:

good advice.

Trev:

The wooden ones are the best ones. But there's a lot to be taken in and

Unknown:

loads of what was the name of the the beer glass protection for your mustache.

Trev:

Oh mo guard

Wayne:

my God. Yeah, but they're generally available. But for people

Trev:

other thing if you're going to buy products oh yeah that well that's quite difficult to get hold of they are you will find them on social media

Wayne:

which is why we can put some links up on our website

Trev:

for people yeah, there is you could link it to their Instagram page and stuff. I think Amazon have kept them at some point. I think I've got a couple of them. We'll put some links in the

Unknown:

show notes. Yeah,

Trev:

exactly. But the other thing I will say as well for like beard products is I know you everyone I know some some fellows I know do use their stuff and are very happy with it and that but try not to kind of everything's got to be natural, as well if you're gonna buy any kind of beard shampoo, beard balms, there's obviously beard balm that keeps in set in in place so

Wayne:

maybe trev we'll talk about literally but rather than growing it with what the actual products as soon as you come into the oils and everything yeah, so what's in your what's in your cabinet, basically the to look after your beard,

Trev:

I've got beard oil. I've got Tash wax, beard butter, which I tend to put on before I got a bed just because obviously will dry out at night. When you're sleeping. Yes. And to have keep it in place I'll use like beard balm. But to say all those should be natural as I say it's very tempting to go with the big manufacturers, but the smaller ones go with them because that way they get the they get your business you know it's hard starting off a new business like that.

Wayne:

And then you promote some trip, don't you? Yeah. Would you want to plug them now?

Trev:

Thomas's company Yeah, well banging beards. Yeah, great. Great, guys.

Wayne:

Yeah, you've got a code you'd have you got a coder cuz I people,

Unknown:

thedude, yeah, thedude if you use the code that dude What do they say? get a discount This guy? Yeah,

Trev:

yeah, exactly. Yeah, they're really good stuff. It's all natural. We put a lot of thought into it

Wayne:

Which would you say should be you know he's tempted to go the other is the branding important with beard products is a part of it, the branding and everything as well as just the product itself.

Trev:

You gotta be really careful because because be just seen as so kind of gnarly and that kind of stuff. Don't be kind of taken in with a skull on the bottom or, you know, do you notice? Yeah, exactly. Some of that is just all imaging isn't there probably there are obviously big companies that have got really good stuff even though they've got like a gnarly logo but if you go with stuff and do a little bit of research as well you know that's the thing it's got you know, I've read a few testimonies and stuff like that but yeah the guys I I operate with a very good they do sort of everything The only thing he doesn't do is Tash wax by no there's talk about him moving into that

Wayne:

is that a different product trev to them.

Trev:

And again, you get different forms of Tash wax. Because obviously, everyone's hair is different. So basically, you've got to get one that suits you so trying stuff, you can get little pots of it. So you can try stuff out and I'll tell me the other thing as well. If you grow a beard and your girlfriend or your wife or your partner fella or whoever doesn't like you having a beard. The good thing about using oils and balms and stuff is is scented. So yes makes you smell nice. And to be honest, that's one of the biggest. That's great when like a bit like when someone's smell someone's nice aftershave I've smelled you're not literally like up close, but I can smell it sometimes when you've got in the car noises pleasants really weird. I've never had a lot of guys through their work or through the coal will ever suffer from really cracked hands and stuff where I use beard oil and beard balm every day and every night you know my hands have grown because I've always been lubricated with oil you know that's that's really good as well. But yeah that that is do you research and kind of and again if you know if you know a guy or you you know live he lives across the street that's got a really cool beard go and ask him what he users I've had quite a few guys asked me or go with of asking for their boyfriends or their husbands what I usually mine on the big communities really cold like that.

Wayne:

All the guys be happy to be approached in this way trev.

Trev:

thoughts. Most of them are

Unknown:

Yeah, I would have thought so there's always gonna be a few I guess. Yeah,

Trev:

my brother's got a really big beard and he doesn't use anything any he's just lazy to be honest, but to get away with it. To get a good shave and stuff, a bit of beard balm, but a little bit goes a long way. Don't just drown it in product because it's just not good for it. You know you you'll get the was well, you know that all the money is gone into the marketing idea of some of the companies have actually got like the amount of drops to use for like the size of beard. But you get to know that after you get those conditioners as well as shampoos, you normally find that the beard conditioners are Better than one a bit like shampoos if you use two separate ones they'll be better on they rather than use one but yeah there's tons of stuff on the market now. But you know that don't be taken in by the all the marketing aspects. Just to e honest even not the L'Oreal d firm though they're supposed o be used Oh, one overly keen n it, admittedly. But can't th y guys really like that? I kno . And not the advert was ju t ridiculous. They'd like a guy with small beards. They didn't e en have beards. I think I've een you the bigger beard than the one t and not into the product. Don't get me wrong, I suppose use that kind of, if they had these really epic beard, some people wouldn't be I do there wouldn't be a get there. So it gives them a bit of false hope. Because you think oh, if I use this, I'm gonna be like, Gandalf. You're not gonna use your genetic. If he's not going to do that. It's not going to do that. But you don't just said but it's a big thing. Don't judge yourself by other people's beards either. Because I say I was shy ages ago is having a beard obviously where I've been. We've lived where my beads taken.because Sam, does it give you ideas?

Wayne:

When you go to like, a festival or something? Do you look at somebody being gone? I could do that or

Trev:

not really into the sculpture of it. You know, I've done lots of kind of, like the competitions I've been to and stuff people do, like add this up, but I'm not really into it. One of the weirdest ones I saw was a brother sending to me was one in America. There's a really good TV show about actually. And he actually managed to sculpt his beard into like a cage around a cage. His head. I don't know how he did he can find it. But it was shocking. He was just like, but again, he doesn't do your beard a great deal of good, but he's obviously had hairspray and stuff on there. And that and again, you don't want to be putting anything like that on hairspray on because you've already got no no I don't nobody smokes any more really. indoors in that, but you've only got to get near a naked flame. Like if you said, Hey, imagine for a stage and it just gets sticky and it's not good for it. And I just have no place. So yeah, that's not that that's a bit of a no no as well. Well,

Wayne:

we're gonna be approaching next week. We're gonna This is a two doubleheader Really? Because Yeah, the doors that have opened up for Trevor, since you've been growing his beard. Sounds like an oxymoron. But Trevor's busy with his beard, basically.

Unknown:

Yeah.

Wayne:

We're going to talk about that next week. And it's theres beard clubs. And Trevor has a whole social life and

Trev:

for the beards for charity and stuff a big producer. Yeah,

Wayne:

great. The charity work. Yeah.

Trev:

Again, keeps giving

Wayne:

you guys a friend is a friendly. We discussed that community. Yeah. Next week's episode. Yeah. So I think that leads us up to the summary nicely. trev so I think that that means I should go for this one. Because I didn't do this last week. I forgot everyone. I apologize. No, I didn't feel bad about that. But so I'm not going to be silly enough to say is it cool to have beards or not? Because

Trev:

Yeah, it is at the monent. Some guys they look great, you know? So but if you're going to grow it as I say, the key to it is patience. Patience is the key

Wayne:

is how long you've been nurtured, but seven years. So in that sense,

Trev:

yeah, probably that five years six. I remember

Wayne:

putting up a picture for us or sent you a picture that we took of us about four years ago. And you replied small beard. So you obviously thought it wasn't impressive at that time. They still look long, you know long in comparison to what you used to have

Trev:

to have out that but it I've obviously had a lot taken off in various stages to treat to tidy up. I've just let go of being done it myself. The issue is obviously with the COVID thing, you can't you couldn't have a beard trim or anything so I've just saw tampered with it myself. We just been in education as well. Yeah. Learning how to do that a little bit, which is good.

Wayne:

I'd definitely if I thought if I could grow a proper beard. I've definitely dabbled with it. But I just I've had a go and I I just haven't got the genetics to make it work for me. So

Trev:

I suppose patchy beards is Yeah, why did you bother and you know, I was no remedy for it. You just make the best of what you've got if you've got the genetics to tell you the other thing very quickly as well which does help is a healthy lifestyle. i know we always talk about this

Wayne:

of protein and protein. determines

Trev:

if you eat a lot of rough sunlight. Yes. A lot of rubbish awful even the drink sunny delight.

Wayne:

We're not sponsored by them and I

Trev:

want to get a healthier lifestyle is good for you. eating lots of rubbish, is it gonna be

Wayne:

yeah reflects in your body looks like yeah, like anything? Yeah, definitely. So yeah, next week's episode, we'll be talking discussing more what kind of doors your beard can open for you again, has to be Trevor's speciality. He's very involved with that.

Trev:

hairy doorstop.

Wayne:

If there's anything you guys out there want us to discuss it. It's been midlife. Yeah, leave us like go to www.amlopodcast.com. Leave us a voicemail or female about beards. And so yeah, I will leave Trevor message to answer questions about beards always happy to help where we can get involved, you know, we'll feature some of the calls on the on the podcast. And so, until next time, thanks for listening.

Trev:

It's been a pleasure again, always.

Wayne:

Cheers triple c'est la vie.

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